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  • michdb8
    Rookie
    • Jan 2017
    • 282

    #1

    should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

    is so sad than franchise mode is so bad this year I didn't get the game but for the streamers and discussion looks the worst franchise year for the show

    should the show stop support carry over the franchise to make easier to improve the mode?
    one of the features that avoid making franchise improves to get better is carryover, due every year have to be support last years franchise so makes the new features more limit,
    2k franchise director mention this when some peoples ask to add this feature to NBA 2k19 ¨we don't wanna add it, cause we want to add new features every year, not like other developers that prefer to continue with limit features like this¨

    if the problem is the money and they wanna make franchise mode profitable just add an optionally paid DLC every year with the game to add franchise mode with new features a support team who focus on this mode.
    if the mode had enough quality ill glad paid an extra to get better support
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  • coach422001
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 1492

    #2
    Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

    https://forums.operationsports.com/f...hise-mode.html

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52730

      #3
      Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

      Carryover saves aren't going anywhere. I've asked this very question directly to SDS.

      Carryover saves do not prevent SDS from making improvements, adding new features to franchise mode. It is something they have to factor in when making decisions along with resources (time and manpower)

      If you hide new franchise features behind a pay wall (paid DLC) you are going to lose a vast majority of your hardcore fanbase that has supported this game over the years.
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      • Bullit
        Bacon is Better
        • Aug 2009
        • 5004

        #4
        Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

        This is a ridiculous argument, Im sorry but it is. Carry over saves get little to no work here on out. Its already in place and the programming does not need to see any major work in a development cycle. Maybe just adding in any new data that might be created by changes or upgrades to franchise mode.

        The carry over save is literally just data. It breaks down every part of franchise mode into 1's and 0's, carries it over and then brings it back into view able data. It does not take away from the development cycle.

        edit: or what CountryBoy just said works to
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        • Funkycorm
          Cleveland Baseball Guru
          • Nov 2016
          • 3159

          #5
          Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

          No offense but no.

          Who says franchise is bad this year? Some streamers no one gives a care about? I am loving franchise this year. What matters about franchise is what the individual player thinks of it, not what someone streaming for profit says.

          There is zero reason to get rid of carry over saves. It is completely unrelated to improving franchise. Sure scouting could use a make over but franchise is so far from bad.

          And 2k added essentially nothing to their my league this year. So that argument won't work either.
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          • tessl
            All Star
            • Apr 2007
            • 5683

            #6
            Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

            Originally posted by michdb8
            is so sad than franchise mode is so bad this year I didn't get the game but for the streamers and discussion looks the worst franchise year for the show

            should the show stop support carry over the franchise to make easier to improve the mode?
            one of the features that avoid making franchise improves to get better is carryover, due every year have to be support last years franchise so makes the new features more limit,
            2k franchise director mention this when some peoples ask to add this feature to NBA 2k19 ¨we don't wanna add it, cause we want to add new features every year, not like other developers that prefer to continue with limit features like this¨

            if the problem is the money and they wanna make franchise mode profitable just add an optionally paid DLC every year with the game to add franchise mode with new features a support team who focus on this mode.
            if the mode had enough quality ill glad paid an extra to get better support
            Explain how carry over saves prevent SDS from improving franchise. What feature couldn't be added to the carry over save?

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #7
              Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

              Originally posted by tessl
              Explain how carry over saves prevent SDS from improving franchise. What feature couldn't be added to the carry over save?
              That's what I'm trying to figure out. The big things I see people asking for wouldn't seem limited by converting a prior franchise.

              In fact, something like real contracts would seem less likely than things like improved scouting and roster management, etc. Contacts is actually impacting data on the player (which, of course, is part of the franchise save file), while improved scouting, for example, is just a system within the mode and would apply whether it's an old or new franchise.

              Heck, didn't they add tracking a walks on a career basis while having carryover? That's a whole new field and, again, impacting the actual data and bringing it over to a now new data field.

              So, no, I don't understand where this "carryover holds things back" idea is from or any practical examples of it being potentially true.
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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5683

                #8
                Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                Originally posted by KBLover
                That's what I'm trying to figure out. The big things I see people asking for wouldn't seem limited by converting a prior franchise.

                In fact, something like real contracts would seem less likely than things like improved scouting and roster management, etc. Contacts is actually impacting data on the player (which, of course, is part of the franchise save file), while improved scouting, for example, is just a system within the mode and would apply whether it's an old or new franchise.

                Heck, didn't they add tracking a walks on a career basis while having carryover? That's a whole new field and, again, impacting the actual data and bringing it over to a now new data field.

                So, no, I don't understand where this "carryover holds things back" idea is from or any practical examples of it being potentially true.
                I agree. I can't think of a single thing that couldn't be added to carry over saves.

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                • michdb8
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 282

                  #9
                  Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                  Originally posted by Funkycorm
                  No offense but no.

                  Who says franchise is bad this year? Some streamers no one gives a care about? I am loving franchise this year. What matters about franchise is what the individual player thinks of it, not what someone streaming for profit says.

                  There is zero reason to get rid of carry over saves. It is completely unrelated to improving franchise. Sure scouting could use a make over but franchise is so far from bad.

                  And 2k added essentially nothing to their my league this year. So that argument won't work either.
                  the real contract without making a new engine totally broke the logic, the CPU trades are awful just look at this forums discussion to check
                  the only features for franchise mode are the extensions that it.

                  i don't like basketball but i have been played NBA 2k19 from September to this march in my league and enjoy how deep is this mode this year they add more than 10 features just check the nba2k19 myleague blog, the best ones over 50 sliders to control CPU logic in tons of things, mentorship for young players, new rules changes in offseason, able to manually assign the awards, etc.
                  unfortunately, nba 2k19 franchise mode is far way from mlb the show and madden

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                  • michdb8
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 282

                    #10
                    Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    Explain how carry over saves prevent SDS from improving franchise. What feature couldn't be added to the carry over save?
                    I guess then when you add new features you check to make sure that is gonna work with old franchise files and can cause problems like new engine on contracts teams with too much salary on older fracnhise, I m, not a developer but the main franchise mode developer from nba 2k19 said that last year this feature gonna limit new features if the add to the nba game
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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52730

                      #11
                      Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                      Originally posted by michdb8
                      I guess then when you add new features you check to make sure that is gonna work with old franchise files and can cause problems, I m, not a developer but the main franchise mode developer from nba 2k19 said that last year this feature gonna limit new features if the add to the nba game
                      I don't know what the NBA 2k developer's thoughts on the feature have to do with The Show.

                      Especially when a SDS developer came out and said that it doesn't prevent them from adding new features/improvements to the mode.

                      Maybe the 2K guy said that because its true for how their coding is in the game, or because saying that gets the off the hook from those who want the feature implemented.

                      Doesn't matter either way, his thoughts on the feature in relation to his game, has no barring on the feature in relation to the Show.
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                      • kinsmen7
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 1661

                        #12
                        Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                        If someone from SDS came out and said "Hey guys, here's the deal, feature A and feature B that we want to add can't be added if there's carryover", then yes, I'd say get rid of it so they can step forward.

                        But they haven't. And I don't see any reason that they would.

                        Yes, it's disappointing that franchise mode goes seemingly untouched every year, but IMO, it has nothing to do with carryover saves.
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                        • MrArlingtonBeach
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4529

                          #13
                          Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                          I want Franchise improvements as much as the next person, but carryover saves is a huge feature that The Show can boast, since not many other sports titles have it. They'd never let it go, even if it meant more updates to other modes. I wouldn't blame them one bit for it.
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                          • Rocket32
                            MVP
                            • May 2016
                            • 1639

                            #14
                            Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                            Originally posted by Funkycorm
                            No offense but no.

                            Who says franchise is bad this year? Some streamers no one gives a care about? I am loving franchise this year. What matters about franchise is what the individual player thinks of it, not what someone streaming for profit says.

                            There is zero reason to get rid of carry over saves. It is completely unrelated to improving franchise. Sure scouting could use a make over but franchise is so far from bad.

                            And 2k added essentially nothing to their my league this year. So that argument won't work either.
                            In 2K’s defense they can afford some slacking with their franchise mode to be honest, if what you said is true. As far as franchise mode and the depth of it goes, they are already light years ahead of the competition in my opinion.

                            They can focus on other things like gameplay and make minimal improvements to MyLeague for the next several years and at the rate EA and SDS improve their franchise modes and focus on them they’d still have significant ground left to cover to catch up after all that time. If they ever get there gameplay to the high level quality of the Show’s, I don’t think anyone could deny that they’d have the best sports game on the market.

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                            • Madden08PCgmr
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 2440

                              #15
                              Re: should MLBTS stop support carry over the franchises to make easier the improve?

                              I think the answer is paid content. I've been saying it for awhile now.

                              If they cant/wont dedicate staff to franchise mode, fine! I'll fund franchise improvements/additions. Charge me. I'll gladly pay.

                              Same with the corporate football game. I'll pay whatever it takes to get it "in the game"
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