Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

[Manny677]

Sorry to drag this up if it has been answered. Is there a way to determine which catchers call games best or do all of them call the game the same? I looked at some old threads that gave various opinions but there was nothing definitive. Is it the fielding attribute? Thanks in advance.

[tv25man]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

I've wondered the same thing. I pretty much always go along with the game my catcher calls.

[Drty_Windshield]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

I have no earthly idea, but that is a good question. In theory you would think that all the catchers would have the same knowledge about hitters tendencies, but there is more than one way to skin a cat so I wouldn't think that they would be programed to make the exact same calls to give them some personalities. One way to test and find out is to play the first batter of the same game a few times with two controllers so the batter never swings to eliminate variables, note the difference in calls, then change catchers and repeat.

[tessl]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

I've played thousands of games in manage mode. I suspect there is no difference regarding pitch calling from one catcher to the next.

It seems impossible to program something like that.

[stealyerface]

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There have been quite a few discussions on how interesting it would be to have Dynamic Catcher calling, and the rating of the catcher would aid in making "correct" calls, as opposed to blowing a fastball by a hitter, who looks like he is swinging a garden hose out there.... only to have the next call be something off speed... or three change ups in a row....

The trouble is instituting a way to have a catcher call for smarter pitches, thereby increasing the swing and miss ratio, without it seeming like the game is playing favorites.

I try, for the sake of realism, to follow the catcher's signs, but sometimes he just does not have his head in the game.

~syf

[Manny677]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

But how can you tell if you are trading for a younger catcher to build your team with? If it is the fielding attribute, then at least you know which way that player is going to trend as they get older.

[Detroit Tigers]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

I wish we could legit shake off the catcher and have him put a new sign down - like right on the fly, not the whole “step off the mound” sequence. Half the time when you shake him off now he just puts the same thing down again anyway.

On topic, I have no doubt that there’s zero difference between catchers.


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[Caulfield]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

Needs to be a perk quirk or whatever its called

[Houston]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

Theres no difference in catcher calling games onky attribute they have different is blocking.

If they werw to add in inside edge reports and make catchers call games based off the info from inside edge then it would make a difference.

MLB 2K had this built into there game and u could purchase inside edge reports per team etc...

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[tessl]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

There have been quite a few discussions on how interesting it would be to have Dynamic Catcher calling, and the rating of the catcher would aid in making "correct" calls, as opposed to blowing a fastball by a hitter, who looks like he is swinging a garden hose out there.... only to have the next call be something off speed... or three change ups in a row....

The trouble is instituting a way to have a catcher call for smarter pitches, thereby increasing the swing and miss ratio, without it seeming like the game is playing favorites.

I try, for the sake of realism, to follow the catcher's signs, but sometimes he just does not have his head in the game.

~syf

Wouldn't be realistic. Catchers go over the hitters before the game and if a manager doesn't have confidence in the catcher he calls pitches from the dugout.

Fielding ability for catchers is fielding a ball in play.

Of all the things they could fix or improve in franchise this isn't high on the list.

[stealyerface]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

Wouldn't be realistic. Catchers go over the hitters before the game and if a manager doesn't have confidence in the catcher he calls pitches from the dugout.

Fielding ability for catchers is fielding a ball in play.

Of all the things they could fix or improve in franchise this isn't high on the list.

The Red Sox just dusted Blake Swihart for a guy (Sandy Leon) hitting .000 because he "called a better game and had a better relationship with pitchers".

I had quite a capable relationship with all three catchers in college, but Randy was my dude. He knew exactly what to throw, when, and where it needed to go. Based on the previous at-bats, swings on previous pitches, and situations. He was the worst of my three at blocking balls in the dirt.

I would indeed like to see the catcher be a larger part of the pitchers' production, and perhaps as a quirk, would give a boost to the pitcher he was catching with regards to strikes or confidence.

The realism, or lack thereof, does not come from the ability to scout batters and go over pitching plans and strategies. The non-realistic part of the problem is how to institute this without feeling "cheap" or forced.

I am pretty sure Gary Sanchez and Jady Molina can go over scouting reports and batter tendencies exactly the same. Sanchez couldn't block a baseketball, but I'll tell you who 100% of the pitchers in the MLB would rather throw to, and it is not because of scouting batters.

~syf

[Caulfield]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

if a catcher knows so much about pitching by God he should be on the mound tossing them in there . I require 2 things of my Show catcher : A) throw runners out & B) block any 58 foot curveballs

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[stealyerface]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

if a catcher knows so much about pitching by God he should be on the mound tossing them in there . I require 2 things of my Show catcher : A) throw runners out & B) block any 58 foot curveballs

#UncommonOpinions

The Show catchers need to only accomplish these two things. #commonopinions

Catchers in real life need to frame pitches, receive pitches properly, keep an eye on runners, scout hitters, block the plate, work the umpires, call plays, throw guys out, block everything thrown their way, and hit .200 or better.

Remember, there is no such thing as a wild pitch. That’s a made up stat. They are ALL passed balls.

~syf


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[Caulfield]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

Remember, there is no such thing as a wild pitch. That’s a made up stat. They are ALL passed balls.

as a pitcher , I like that . like it enough to be my signature lol

[jaato]

Re: Catchers calling pitches...any difference in catchers?

Hopefully ps5 we get a framing stat at least so more borderline pitches are called strikes with a better stat

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