Relief Pitchers Missing lStamina

[Ace1234NY]

Wonder if anybody else has this issue or knows of a solution. I'm in Spring Training of a franchise I carried over from 18. What happens is that ~50% of the time, when I bring in a new reliever, he loses 25-33% of his stamina immediately upon entering the game. Before a single pitch is thrown. I've tried all different ways of warming up relievers. I can't figure out a rhyme or reason to it. It seems truly random. The other 50% of the time, the reliever enters the game with the same stamina he had in the bullpen, perfectly normal. It's a real pain because it makes even short relief outings very taxing on my bullpen arms. If it only happens in Spring Training, no big deal. But it will become much more problematic once my roster shrinks back down to 25. What I really fear is that there's just something wrong with my particular carry over file for some reason. I never encountered this in 18. I did a bug report on Show Nation, but I won't hold my breath. Any info on this apparent bug would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[EPatetta]

Re: Relief Pitchers Missing lStamina

Yes I've noticed this as well. It's pretty frustrating when you have a setup man struggle to get through an inning because he's gassed after 8 pitches due to the stamina issue.

For the record I'm not using a carry over save.

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[TheWarmWind]

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It seems to only happen when a reliever hasn't been used in a while, or early in the season. I wonder if it's on purpose.

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[countryboy]

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How long are you having them warm up? Is the meter full when you bring them in? Are you stopping them from warming up when the meter gets full?

[Drty_Windshield]

Re: Relief Pitchers Missing lStamina

1: Never use the quick menu for the bullpen, always pause the game.
2: Never schedule him to pitch
3: Always stretch and toss first and he only needs a few pitches to actually warm up.
4: Ready and waiting with the bar almost full.
5: Enter game

[Ace1234NY]

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How long are you having them warm up? Is the meter full when you bring them in? Are you stopping them from warming up when the meter gets full?

My typical thing is that I warm them up while I'm batting for the following half-inning. If I have a long turn at bat and I see the reliever's readiness bar is full or close, I'll switch to "ready and waiting" to not overwork them. I haven't noticed a difference whether I use "ready and waiting" or not on the occurance of this issue.

[Ace1234NY]

Re: Relief Pitchers Missing lStamina

1: Never use the quick menu for the bullpen, always pause the game.
2: Never schedule him to pitch
3: Always stretch and toss first and he only needs a few pitches to actually warm up.
4: Ready and waiting with the bar almost full.
5: Enter game

I do usually use the quick menu. I never thought of that. Perhaps that's related to my issue. I will make sure to use the pause menu only and see if that helps. Thanks!

[Ace1234NY]

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I do usually use the quick menu. I never thought of that. Perhaps that's related to my issue. I will make sure to use the pause menu only and see if that helps. Thanks!

Just wanted to report back and say that I played two games. Exclusively used the pause menu to bring in new pitchers and I am pleased to say I have not encountered this bug! Before, it happened at least once each game (often more), so to not see it for two whole games is significant. If it comes back I'll report back here. But as of now, I'll say that if anyone else has this problem, make sure to follow Drty_Windshield's advice and only make pitching changes from the pause menu. It looks like a good workaround. Thank you so much for helping me find a way around this issue!

[Ace1234NY]

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I said I'd follow up if I saw the issue again and I think I figured out what may be causing it. It seems to happen when I do a double switch. Which is problematic playing in the NL. Dunno what I can do besides avoid using that I guess, but it's a disadvantage. What a mess, SDS.

[countryboy]

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I said I'd follow up if I saw the issue again and I think I figured out what may be causing it. It seems to happen when I do a double switch. Which is problematic playing in the NL. Dunno what I can do besides avoid using that I guess, but it's a disadvantage. What a mess, SDS.

I don't have this issue using the double switch.

I stretch and toss for a batter, then let them warm up until the meter is 3/4 of the way full and then have them wait. I haven't seen a reliever missing stamina when they enter the game.

[Azamien]

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I don't have this issue using the double switch.

I stretch and toss for a batter, then let them warm up until the meter is 3/4 of the way full and then have them wait. I haven't seen a reliever missing stamina when they enter the game.

It happens to me once in awhile, and it seems to be anytime the pitcher's (previous) spot is due up next. But the missing stamina is only part of it. They also come in with 50% confidence when the bug occurs, and with the way pitcher confidence works in this game it means there's a better-than-normal chance they're going to get shelled. (And I mean their overall confidence, not the individual pitch confidence.)

The bug has been around for so long at this point I have no hope of it ever getting recognized or fixed. When it happens I just try to file it as one of those things inexplicable things that happens in baseball.

[Baseball Purist]

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Been experiencing this exact issue since last year. Its already hard enough to pitch with the bullpen and this just adds another layer. It's especially bad as someone mentioned when you have the pitcher due to hit and you sub him out, and go through the process of warming someone up and scheduling him to pitch.

Stamina in this game has needed an overhaul for some time. Dont even get me started on how poorly its implemented for your every day lineup that will need a breather after 5 or 6 consecutive games smh.

[Bullit]

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I have been pointing this out for two years and everybody just kept saying I was doing it wrong and that I had no idea what I was talking about.

The only thing you need to NOT do is use Schedule to Pitch. I have tested this and posted about on here until I just gave up. You can use the quick menu, double switch, whatever way you want to do it, just dont EVER use Schedule to Pitch. In testing this I have left relievers in the pen at ready in waiting for multiple innings and have had no loss in stamina.

[Baseball Purist]

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I have been pointing this out for two years and everybody just kept saying I was doing it wrong and that I had no idea what I was talking about.

The only thing you need to NOT do is use Schedule to Pitch. I have tested this and posted about on here until I just gave up. You can use the quick menu, double switch, whatever way you want to do it, just dont EVER use Schedule to Pitch. In testing this I have left relievers in the pen at ready in waiting for multiple innings and have had no loss in stamina.

The thing that I run into here when I bring in a pinch hitter for the pitcher is that sometimes I'm not prompted to bring in a reliever the next inning, and the computer will not let me sub in a pitcher until that pinch hitter has pitched to a batter which is annoying.

The only thing I have found that works 100 percent of the time is to have someone scheduled to pitch when bringing in a pinch hitter for the pitcher.