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  • TheBigTee
    Do Your Job
    • Nov 2006
    • 464

    #1

    Any franchise fixes yet?

    I saw The Show 19 is on sale at Target for $39.99. I’d be interested in picking up the game if they have fixed or intend to fix any of their franchise issues (pitchers batting DH, poor trade and free agency logic, contracts undervalued, and arbitration salary issues). Have any of these been fixed or is there any word from SDS that they intend to fix anything with franchise mode?

    I’ve tried to read patch notes when available but have yet to see anything geared towards franchise computer logic. Do you guys think any of these fixes are coming?


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  • Ace2734
    Rookie
    • Aug 2015
    • 437

    #2
    Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

    While I think The Show is the best sports game on the market, franchise is still pretty much a DIY (do it yourself) effort. 30 team control with OSFM rosters is the way to go otherwise it’s definitely a flawed but still fun experience.


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    • Jm0ney2001
      MVP
      • Nov 2003
      • 1352

      #3
      Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

      I was wondering the same thing as OP. Looking like I’ll just stick to MLB 18


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      • Detroit Tigers
        MVP
        • Mar 2018
        • 1376

        #4
        Any franchise fixes yet?

        The AI not making defensive upgrade replacements late in games is another one that bugs me a bit, and I’m not sure but I don’t think they bring in strategic pinch hitters (R/L matchups) either, to say nothing about how they don’t bring in backups during ST games. I feel like they’ll get around to fixing these just hope it’s not a restart your franchise thing because I’m in way too deep for that noise.

        Edit: I also think it’s imperative they tweak AI lineup logic to reflect the modern state of baseball. It’s getting really old seeing them hit a speedy guy lead off and the best hitter third in every lineup like it’s still 2002.
        Last edited by Detroit Tigers; 05-06-2019, 01:45 PM.
        Just one man’s opinion.
        I don’t actually care about any of this.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21794

          #5
          Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

          Originally posted by Detroit Tigers
          The AI not making defensive upgrade replacements late in games is another one that bugs me a bit, and I’m not sure but I don’t think they bring in strategic pinch hitters (R/L matchups) either, to say nothing about how they don’t bring in backups during ST games. I feel like they’ll get around to fixing these just hope it’s not a restart your franchise thing because I’m in way too deep for that noise.

          Edit: I also think it’s imperative they tweak AI lineup logic to reflect the modern state of baseball. It’s getting really old seeing them hit a speedy guy lead off and the best hitter third in every lineup like it’s still 2002.
          So while I agree the AI should reflect modern day baseball trends......this trend has not helped hitting in the major leagues. In fact hitting has never been worse. Situational hitting is hot garbage in Major League baseball today.

          I still control all 30 teams lineups and still put the speedy guy up first, great contact guys second....boppers/great hitters etc 3-4-5-6.

          Base stealing and bunting are lost arts too while we are at it LOL.

          In fact in my own Year 3 Yankees franchise I may move down Judge to 4th because of how much he is striking out for me this season. I can't have that out of my second batter. I need contact to move Trea Turner or drive him in from second base (Yeah I steal with him...a lot).

          All good. But I agree in principal on CPU AI.
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          • BigOrangeVol4Life
            Pro
            • Dec 2013
            • 769

            #6
            Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

            That's what I've been doing the past 2 or 3 years. I'm 100% a franchise guy. I don't see any need in buying the game on day 1. I wait until a 2nd version opening day OSFM roster is released along with a number of patches that fix major problems. I play the previous year's game and will still be playing '18 until the glaring problems in '19 are fixed. You can buy the game at a lower price and not have to keep restarting the season once you start.

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            • Detroit Tigers
              MVP
              • Mar 2018
              • 1376

              #7
              Any franchise fixes yet?

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              So while I agree the AI should reflect modern day baseball trends......this trend has not helped hitting in the major leagues. In fact hitting has never been worse. Situational hitting is hot garbage in Major League Baseball today


              Haha yeah I hear that. But that could be reflective of all the spraychart shifting opposed to anything related to lineup slot. and speaking of, shifting is something else the AI doesn’t do enough of. They only shift on extreme pull guys; irl teams seem like they’re shifting on basically everyone who isn’t a “whole field” guy. Don’t need to see some kind of shift on 75% of hitters but it would be nice to see some teams shift at rates like that some games.

              Edit: Also it’s less that there’s anything “wrong” with the “old book,” it’s more just bothersome/annoying that there’s virtually nothing of the “new book” reflected by the AI, with the single exception of shifting on extreme pull hitters.
              Last edited by Detroit Tigers; 05-06-2019, 03:42 PM.
              Just one man’s opinion.
              I don’t actually care about any of this.

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              • moTIGS
                Pro
                • Jun 2003
                • 569

                #8
                Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                It would certainly be cool if different managers employed different strategies.

                Managers with ratings reflective of how quickly they went to the bullpen, how often they go with pinch hitters or defensive substitutions, how willing they were to shift, whether they favored an old-school or new-school lineup, etc. would add a ton of depth.

                Might be a PITA to actually implement, but I’d argue it’s worth it.

                Of course, worth it for me and other people who play a lot vs. CPU is not the same as worth it for people who emphasize head-to-head online play.

                This sort of thing really makes me wish sports titles weren’t exclusive. Competition allows for different games to cater to different types of players.

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                • delspf
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 451

                  #9
                  Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                  I seriously doubt the fixes are coming
                  Can't believe I been a member here this long

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                  • BJSands
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                    I was thinking about getting the game at Target for 39.99... then I saw the pitchers DH'ing issue. Hardest of hard passes. No way I pick this up until it's fixed.

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                    • TheBigTee
                      Do Your Job
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 464

                      #11
                      Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                      Originally posted by delspf
                      I seriously doubt the fixes are coming


                      Unfortunately it looks like you’re right. The newest patch didn’t fix any of the problems I am concerned about with franchise mode. I guess I’m taking the year off.

                      I was looking for any excuse I could find to give SDS the benefit of the doubt and purchase the game, but as a franchise mode only player I can’t find any reason to do so.

                      It was bad enough they neglected franchise mode in the development cycle (again), but then they took it a step further by completely ignoring any problems in the mode throughout the season.




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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52784

                        #12
                        Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                        Tbarnes has reported that the trading issue he saw prior to this patch appears to have been fixed but he's continuing to test.

                        Ramone mentioned in tonights stream that they are working on fixing the pitcher as a DH issue and the hope is to have it available for patch 1.11, which is two patches from now.
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                        • TheBigTee
                          Do Your Job
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 464

                          #13
                          Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          Tbarnes has reported that the trading issue he saw prior to this patch appears to have been fixed but he's continuing to test.

                          Ramone mentioned in tonights stream that they are working on fixing the pitcher as a DH issue and the hope is to have it available for patch 1.11, which is two patches from now.
                          That's good to hear! If both of those things are fixed that is basically all I need to be comfortable purchasing. Just when I was about ready to give up...go figure. Thanks for the update, countryboy.

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                          • tabarnes19_SDS
                            Game Designer
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3084

                            #14
                            Re: Any franchise fixes yet?

                            I don't know if it is "fixed" per se. The limited time I had to test I saw different trades and some bigger contracts move than previous. One sim seemed great, havent been able to reproduce that.

                            I think it could be opened a little more. I'll have time Sunday to really play with it.

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