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  • nemesis04
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    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #16
    Re: Double play city.

    Originally posted by Aviator87AC
    There is a ton of strategy to hitting, it is so much deeper than most people realize. Someone wrote a full guide to it awhile ago but basically whenever you're hitting with a man on first and less than 2-outs, you should never commit to a hit without pressing up (or aiming low if zone). If facing a sinkerballer, you never commit without pressing up and using contact swing. If in a pitchers count (say, 0-2 or 1-2) with a low contact hitter, all you're trying to do is slap the ball oppo pressing up and out.

    Those are just some basic scenarios but once you start going into every at-bat with a gameplan, DPs will decrease to realistic amounts (unless you're just having a bad game).
    I am assuming you are using directional hitting if you keep referring to pressing up?
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    • Ace1234NY
      Rookie
      • Jan 2018
      • 92

      #17
      Re: Double play city.

      This was definitely an issue I had last year where I played a 162 game season, led the league in GIDP, and it wasn't even remotely close. I actually think it's a bit better this year. I feel like on some softer ground balls its possible for decent speed batters to beat it out at 1st. I'm only through 14 games but Iast checked I was like 4th. Still high, but not unrealistically blowing everyone else away. What I have observed are insanely slick turns at 2nd. Like almost every 2B and SS seem like they can catch a ball and then throw it full strength to first in one continuous motion. They should probably have to catch it, shift themselves, then reach back in the glove for the ball. And this should take a little time. Obv elite fielders would be quicker. The other thing is it just feels like it takes batters so long to get to first. Even guys with good speed. I don't know what it is other than maybe they seem to get out of the box really slow. Maybe lowering infield throw strength slider is the way to go. But I don't know if that will throw off other things, like the timing of throws from SS or 3B to 1st.
      Last edited by Ace1234NY; 05-27-2019, 11:46 AM.

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      • kinsmen7
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1661

        #18
        Re: Double play city.

        Oddly enough, this is my first year where I haven't been near the top of the league in this stat. It may have something to do with the fact that my team OBP is sub .300, but I've also been a bit more choosy when it comes to low pitches in the zone. Changed my batting camera angle this year which may have helped. If it's going to be right at the bottom of the zone, I'll lay off of it, even if I'm likely going to get K'd up.

        I can't seem to lay off of the high fastballs now though
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        • MJDrocks
          Pro
          • Nov 2014
          • 918

          #19
          Re: Double play city.

          Player speed in this game has always been a joke. Anyone with 70+ speed should routinely beat out double plays but instead they're out easily every time. Anyone below 50 speed moves like a slug.

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #20
            Re: Double play city.

            I prefer not to bunt with non-pitchers but from time to time I will if its a situation where I have a slow runner on first and weak hitter at the plate. As long as I dont have the most gidp's, I dont mind (as much) having second most. thankfully bunting is better in 19 than last couple years. also, I use timing hitting and rarely use influence but I will sometimes push up for a fly if I have a slow batter with power that has bad bunting skills.
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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21818

              #21
              Double play city.

              Really try to take more pitches with a man on first. The CPU will pound the lower half of the zone early in the count. Almost guaranteed.

              Unless he makes a big mistake up in the zone early in the count.....lay off those below the waste pitches, work the count to 2-1, 2-2, 3-2 and you will have a lot better success avoiding double plays.

              It is not 100% unavoidable of course. It’s baseball. They will happen. But not as high a clip as you may be seeing.

              Really tighten up your plate discipline. Oh and learn to steal bases more effectively with 75 speed or higher guys....which will also make you take more pitches.

              Bunting is also a great skill to have in certain situations.

              Mix it up!!!


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              • shark547
                Pro
                • Jun 2014
                • 666

                #22
                Re: Double play city.

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                Really try to take more pitches with a man on first. The CPU will pound the lower half of the zone early in the count. Almost guaranteed.

                Unless he makes a big mistake up in the zone early in the count.....lay off those below the waste pitches, work the count to 2-1, 2-2, 3-2 and you will have a lot better success avoiding double plays.

                It is not 100% unavoidable of course. It’s baseball. They will happen. But not as high a clip as you may be seeing.

                Really tighten up your plate discipline. Oh and learn to steal bases more effectively with 75 speed or higher guys....which will also make you take more pitches.

                Bunting is also a great skill to have in certain situations.

                Mix it up!!!


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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #23
                  Re: Double play city.

                  Originally posted by shark547
                  Yeah, but chicks dig the long ball.
                  smart chicks dig winning more
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                  • Kaiser Wilhelm
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 2790

                    #24
                    Re: Double play city.

                    Originally posted by MJDrocks
                    Player speed in this game has always been a joke. Anyone with 70+ speed should routinely beat out double plays but instead they're out easily every time. Anyone below 50 speed moves like a slug.
                    The joke is how it plays so radically different in the field versus on the basepaths. You can pretty much cover the entire outfield without ever having to dive with a modestly fast outfielder, and almost any middle infielder can get to a ball up the middle without issue. Now place these guys on the basepaths and they move like they're dragging weights.
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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #25
                      Re: Double play city.

                      Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                      The joke is how it plays so radically different in the field versus on the basepaths. You can pretty much cover the entire outfield without ever having to dive with a modestly fast outfielder, and almost any middle infielder can get to a ball up the middle without issue. Now place these guys on the basepaths and they move like they're dragging weights.
                      not entirely sure what else it would break but try fielder speed at 3 & baserunner speed at 7.
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                      • edeadstroke
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 141

                        #26
                        Re: Double play city.

                        Hit into four (4) DPs in six inning on the Sporer vs Clutch Moments scenerio, some how still won 2 - 0. I was on a verge of meltdown. Breathe...breathe...keep pitching well and you still have a chance.

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                        • VeganRob
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 56

                          #27
                          Re: Double play city.

                          Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                          There is a ton of strategy to hitting, it is so much deeper than most people realize. Someone wrote a full guide to it awhile ago but basically whenever you're hitting with a man on first and less than 2-outs, you should never commit to a hit without pressing up (or aiming low if zone). If facing a sinkerballer, you never commit without pressing up and using contact swing. If in a pitchers count (say, 0-2 or 1-2) with a low contact hitter, all you're trying to do is slap the ball oppo pressing up and out.

                          Those are just some basic scenarios but once you start going into every at-bat with a gameplan, DPs will decrease to realistic amounts (unless you're just having a bad game).


                          Thanks for the tip! I use directional hitting and exclusively use the X button to swing. I pressed up and normal when ahead in the count or up and contact when behind with runners on first with less than 2 outs and exploded with a 5 run inning just moving the guys around the bases without hitting into any DPs. It was great to be able to get some timely hits and manufacturing runs without relying on the long ball or doubles deep in the gaps (I’m currently in a bit of a power outage at the moment)


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