Pitcher getting "set" before throwing?

[Aviator87AC]

Quick question about game mechanics. I've always wondered if allowing your pitcher to become "set" prior to throwing a pitch had any affect on their control or velo. I've never seen anything posted specifically claiming this so I always figured it was simply a visual feature that could be ignored (pitch as fast as you want).

Lately I've done some pitching practice with the same pitcher for 30-40 pitches allowing them to become "set" first vs. throwing as fast as I can. I definitely think they are more accurate after becoming "set".

Anyone else? Is there an official game mechanic that talks about this or is it just assumed?

[countryboy]

Re: Pitcher getting "set" before throwing?

Nothing official that I've seen, but I usually have my pitcher come set before pitching. I'll even pause a moment or two to "focus".

Does it make a difference? I honestly don't know, but I tell myself it does.

[forme95]

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I'm the same as countryboy. I let my guy set and then move and pitch. Same, idk if it's relevant or not, but why chance it lol.

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[Bullit]

Re: Pitcher getting "set" before throwing?

Nothing official that I've seen, but I usually have my pitcher come set before pitching. I'll even pause a moment or two to "focus".

Does it make a difference? I honestly don't know, but I tell myself it does.

I'm the same as countryboy. I let my guy set and then move and pitch. Same, idk if it's relevant or not, but why chance it lol.

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Me three. No idea, really if it helps or not. Just feels right. Probably wouldnt change even if I knew it wouldnt matter.

[kinsmen7]

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It all depends on how I'm playing. I play with meter pitching, and if I get in a groove, I just cruise through, but if I start missing my spots, or I start getting hit, I'll take the time to get set.

IMO it's more of a personal thing than anything else.

[Detroit Tigers]

Pitcher getting "set" before throwing?

I have ALWAYS wondered this, and I swear to God there’s a difference, not just with getting set but overall pace and timing too.

.... But honestly I have no idea 🤣

[CujoMatty]

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It’s probably a mental thing.

If you aren’t having the pitcher “set” himself it probably means you are rushing and not quite concentrating at the level if you were taking your time. Hence more erratic.

I find I pitch way better if I slow myself down but it’s all on me and not an actual game mechanic.

All this is assuming you pitch using the meter or analog. If not than I have no idea lol.

[forme95]

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Well now that I think about it.....
Perez, lefty reliever for Cleveland. He has a set and then pitches, but he will also speed things up and skip the set and fast pitch..... So....... Lol

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[raneman85]

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I think it does. I experimented by throwing 4 seamers down the middle while set and pre set. More accuracy when set.

[JoshC1977]

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It’s probably a mental thing.

If you aren’t having the pitcher “set” himself it probably means you are rushing and not quite concentrating at the level if you were taking your time. Hence more erratic.

I find I pitch way better if I slow myself down but it’s all on me and not an actual game mechanic.

All this is assuming you pitch using the meter or analog. If not than I have no idea lol.

I agree with this, even as a classic guy where the button press duration is just as vital as hitting your spots on the meters. If I don't get set with a guy, I tend to just get sloppy with both my release point and in aiming my pitches (esp with ball cursor and vibration both turned off).

[TheGr8Drake28]

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I agree with this, even as a classic guy where the button press duration is just as vital as hitting your spots on the meters. If I don't get set with a guy, I tend to just get sloppy with both my release point and in aiming my pitches (esp with ball cursor and vibration both turned off).

On classic pitching when are you suppose to release the button? I always wait for the vibration...I always wondered about that.

[bcruise]

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On classic pitching when are you suppose to release the button? I always wait for the vibration...I always wondered about that.

The vibration is the "max effort" point in the windup - holding it any longer than that won't increase the effort (speed on a fastball, break on a breaking ball). I don't know whether holding it longer than that has an adverse effect on top of the accuracy hit you already get on max effort though - all I know is there's no point in holding past that vibration.

[TheGr8Drake28]

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The vibration is the "max effort" point in the windup - holding it any longer than that won't increase the effort (speed on a fastball, break on a breaking ball). I don't know whether holding it longer than that has an adverse effect on top of the accuracy hit you already get on max effort though - all I know is there's no point in holding past that vibration.

So should I always throw on max effort? Or is there something good about just pressing the button.

[bcruise]

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So should I always throw on max effort? Or is there something good about just pressing the button.

Like I mentioned, max effort carries an accuracy penalty - it's risk vs reward. You'll get more swings and misses because the pitch is more effective IF it lands in a good spot. If it doesn't, you might serve up an easily taken ball way off the plate or a pitch hanging right in the middle of the plate for a batter to smash. Tapping the button once to start the windup will give the pitcher the most control over the pitch, but it will be harder to get a swing and miss.

There's also supposed to be a fatigue penalty associated with max effort (regardless of pitch interface - it's the same as going into the red on Meter), but if there is it's so small as to not be noticeable over the course of the game. I can throw max effort pitches for just about the whole game (and I need to to be effective on Meter Legend) and still be in the yellow if the pitcher has a good stamina rating.

[JoshC1977]

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On classic pitching when are you suppose to release the button? I always wait for the vibration...I always wondered about that.

Take a look at the opening post of Armor and Sword's slider thread. There is a blurb about classic pitching.

But in short, I consider the button press duration to sort of mimic arm velocity. So max effort (vibration) is like the max arm velocity, tapping is like a low arm velocity.

Depending on the pitch, location and the pitch ratings, you can throw different versions of the same pitch just by varying the duration of the button press within that 1 second window before the vibration (much like how real pitchers can 'add' and 'subtract' velo) from their pitches. I can max effort a tight, higher velocity slider to an opposite handed batter to go back door, or I can min effort (tap) to throw a loopier, lower velocity slider to throw off the timing of the hitter.

It's a pretty cool interface.....much more in depth than people realize.