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  • DukesofHazzard
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 306

    #1

    Defense is AWFUL

    Defense is awful and defensive animations are awful. I dont know how many times I've ran over to catch a fly ball and before I get there my guy slows down cuz the animation kicks in and the ball ends up going over my head. Happens at least once per game for me. I also just had a fly ball to the warning track and as I ran over to get it no catch animation triggered, my guy just stops and let's it bounce on the track so he can play it off the wall. I'm sorry but SDS to me is becoming like EA
  • kinsmen7
    MVP
    • Mar 2016
    • 1661

    #2
    Re: Defense is AWFUL

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    • Detroit Tigers
      MVP
      • Mar 2018
      • 1376

      #3
      Re: Defense is AWFUL

      The animation is just the representation of him not getting there to make the play, it’s not a 1-to-1, frame-to-frame representation of 100% real-world physics. I know it can be frustrating, especially when it happens at a crucial time, but it’s really no different from a super slow-mo replay where the ball goes through the bat. Just one of those things. Look for it to improve next gen maybe.


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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #4
        Re: Defense is AWFUL

        One might say "fielding is trash"?
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        • Vercingetirex
          Rookie
          • Jun 2018
          • 250

          #5
          Re: Defense is AWFUL

          Originally posted by Caulfield
          One might say "fielding is trash"?

          Oh no, please no!

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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #6
            Re: Defense is AWFUL

            I would like to see videos of these happening. The fielding has not been bad for me.
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            • TheWarmWind
              MVP
              • Apr 2015
              • 2620

              #7
              Re: Defense is AWFUL

              ermmergurd, my 90 rated fielder missed one ball once, #gameistrash.

              Seriously, I'm confused by all the people complaining about the error rate. Do you watch baseball? I have my error rate cranked way the heck up and it STILL doesn't match what I see IRL.

              My only complaint is that there is a lot of stuff that should be scored as errors that aren't. I'm thankful for the errors, even when it's obvious that it's just the computer borking up a calculation (which I admit does happen), I just wished they didn't get wrongly counted against my pitcher's ERA.

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              • Aviator87AC
                Rookie
                • Oct 2012
                • 389

                #8
                Re: Defense is AWFUL

                IMO the fielding is better than ever this year. The animations finally feel polished enough to be a representation of the play that's being made. I've also made some absolutely STUNNING plays on the dive. Errors will happen but they are not the norm (at least for me).
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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: Defense is AWFUL

                  well, I guess theres only 1 thing left to do:
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                  Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                  IMO the fielding is better than ever this year. The animations finally feel polished enough to be a representation of the play that's being made. I've also made some absolutely STUNNING plays on the dive. Errors will happen but they are not the norm (at least for me).
                  I use auto fielding so I assume that's why I dont have the problem others are seeing. I also assume most of the people with issues are using manual
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                  • Bullit
                    Bacon is Better
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5004

                    #10
                    Re: Defense is AWFUL

                    I use manual and have no problems at all. For me its the best it has ever been. One of the areas I have NO complaints with.

                    Actually besides the the DH thing and Spring Training, I have no problems with this game at all.
                    Last edited by Bullit; 06-07-2019, 04:11 PM.
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                    • kinsmen7
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 1661

                      #11
                      Re: Defense is AWFUL

                      I use manual as well. Playing with the Jays right now, and given their putrid defense IRL, it doesn't surprise me when balls get him over peoples heads, or when they miss a grab.

                      The only defensive thing that I wasn't really into was the balls hit into the outfield that fielders would bobble. As long as I don't preload a throw with a bad fielder though, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
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                      • Ace1234NY
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 92

                        #12
                        Re: Defense is AWFUL

                        The errors feel a *bit* high for me. Guys really shouldn't miss fly balls. Like, it's one thing if they take a bad route and dont get to it. But they shouldn't get there only to have the ball bounce off their glove or miss the ball altogether. You don't really see professionals do that. The other thing is that I don't feel like the game properly accounts how far a throw is when calculating error chance. I'm seeing a lot of errors from a SS throwing to 2nd or a 2B throwing to 1st or 2nd. I try to stick my worst arm at 2B to protect against throwing errors. But it's like the game just bases error chance on throw accuracy without regard to the distance of the throw. I'm always in disbelief when my guy misses a 40 foot throw. But I don't see so many errors throwing across the diamond. I don't know.
                        Last edited by Ace1234NY; 06-07-2019, 06:52 PM.

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                        • nemesis04
                          RIP Ty My Buddy
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 13530

                          #13
                          Re: Defense is AWFUL

                          Originally posted by Ace1234NY
                          The errors feel a *bit* high for me. Guys really shouldn't miss fly balls. Like, it's one thing if they take a bad route and dont get to it. But they shouldn't get there only to have the ball bounce off their glove of miss the ball altogether. You don't really see professionals do that. The other thing is that I don't feel like the game properly accounts how far a throw is when calculating error chance. I'm seeing a lot of errors from a SS throwing to 2nd or a 2B throwing to 1st or 2nd. I try to stick my worst arm at 2B to protect against throwing errors. But it's like the game just bases error chance on throw accuracy without regard to the distance of the throw. I'm always in disbelief when my guy misses a 40 foot throw. But I don't see so many errors throwing across the diamond. I don't know.
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                          • IgotSyphillis
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 179

                            #14
                            Re: Defense is AWFUL

                            If youre gonna make a thread about Defense being bad, then the great IgotSyphillis must respond. So...…"Defense is AWFUL." I like the use of capital letters. Shows me that you aint playing around. Obviously lets get one thing down straight off the bat. I will not be like the others on this thread and compare my defensive experiences with yours. Because everyone here knows I'm at a minimum at least 394 times better than you at this game. We've gone over this. I'm on a 4 year undefeated streak of never losing a game. Not just MLB The Show. Im also undefeated at NBA 2k19, NHL 19, Coach K College Basketball, Blades of Steel, Mario Golf 64, WrestleMania 2000, Battle Chess, and contests on whose poop smells the most like coconut oil. Im great at everything. I'm like a real life version of AC Slater. Youre like Screech. (excluding the chess episode and the cadet core episode) Its ok. Lets move on.

                            I am not here to insult. I am here to teach. Best way to avoid errors....stop playing. Youre not me. I don't make errors. One time when I was 6 years old I dropped my sno-cone in some dirt and decided the best way to clean it was putting it under hot water. That wasn't an error. That was the day I created rainbow flavored water. But we've already discussed my being the greatest human being alive, lets move on.


                            Back on topic, how to play better defense. It's simple. You ever see the movie Freaky Friday. When 2 people switch bodies and become somebody else? Find out how to do that in real life. Become me. And you will piss excellence. Until then, since defense has been the basically the exact same in this game since 2006, you can finally after 13 years accept its flawed for regular humans like yourself and deal with it.

                            "Everyday I wake up and look out the window, I feel sad. Cause I see all these people out there, and none of them will ever be as great as me" - Ya boy Syphillis
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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #15
                              Re: Defense is AWFUL

                              I realise a lot of people prefer not to adjust sliders, that can lead to a never-ending endeavor unto itself. but for those unsatisfied with fielding and do adjust fielding sliders, are you telling me when adjusted to 0-4, fielding is still trash?
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