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  • HypeRNT
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 368

    #1

    DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

    Lets be honest here less then 5% of people will ever get to WS rank, so you are basically telling 95% of people that they wont get any decent rewards by playing DD and thats pretty lame, these rewards need to be tweaked and not just keep making the rich get richer who already rock maxed out teams and sit at the top.
  • Syce
    MVP
    • Dec 2012
    • 1386

    #2
    Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

    you do realize, that those rewards for WS and such are sellable right? if you dont make it to the WS you COULD(if you wanted to), purchase those cards off the AH. yes they are not exactly cheap. but there are also cards you can get that can be better and easier to obtain.
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    • SwedishTouch76
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 1070

      #3
      Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

      Originally posted by HypeRNT
      Lets be honest here less then 5% of people will ever get to WS rank, so you are basically telling 95% of people that they wont get any decent rewards by playing DD and thats pretty lame, these rewards need to be tweaked and not just keep making the rich get richer who already rock maxed out teams and sit at the top.
      You get rewards simply for playing the game. Any mode. I have 7 Diamonds in my lineup and I'll never reach WS. I also have 99 overalls in Alomar Gwynn Kershaw and a 98 overall Bumgarner simply from playing the game. So what exactly is the problem? Plus I'll have enough stubs soon to purchase Matt Williams if I choose...

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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #4
        Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

        bad enough society got to the point they're entitled to participation trophies, now we're entitled to the first place trophy too
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        • Bullit
          Bacon is Better
          • Aug 2009
          • 5004

          #5
          Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

          I have 10 Diamond players and have never played anything DD related. Only franchise mode and RTTS. I have most of the Diamond Equipment as well having purchased most of it with STUBS just earned playing.

          Though I will not reach the WS anytime soon, but thats because I am doing a Baltimore franchise............................ba da dump!!!
          Last edited by Bullit; 06-17-2019, 05:23 PM.
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          • SmashMan
            All Star
            • Dec 2004
            • 9708

            #6
            Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

            Originally posted by HypeRNT
            Lets be honest here less then 5% of people will ever get to WS rank, so you are basically telling 95% of people that they wont get any decent rewards by playing DD and thats pretty lame, these rewards need to be tweaked and not just keep making the rich get richer who already rock maxed out teams and sit at the top.
            If you're unhappy with the current numbers, what percentage of players achieving the top rank would be acceptable to you?

            Put an actionable idea out here for discussion. Vaguely complaining for the sake of complaining is dumb.

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            • BIGROC
              Pro
              • Aug 2003
              • 766

              #7
              Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

              Originally posted by HypeRNT
              Lets be honest here less then 5% of people will ever get to WS rank, so you are basically telling 95% of people that they wont get any decent rewards by playing DD and thats pretty lame, these rewards need to be tweaked and not just keep making the rich get richer who already rock maxed out teams and sit at the top.
              This year is a lot different with regards to collecting diamond players. I have more diamond cards this year than I did the last 4 years combined. I only purchased a few of them, Torii Hunter and Frank Thomas (87 ovr for both) the Giles rookie card, Francisco Liriano (87) and Ron Guidry, but that's cause you can't stop the Gator!! When I got the Big Hurt signature series card, I sold my 87 Frank Thomas at a minor loss, because he doesn't have a secondary position, and can't play them both.

              In packs I've gotten these cards:
              Aaron Judge and Jose Altuve in the same pack!
              Christian Yelich
              Manny Machado
              Joe Torre (93 ovr)
              Anthony Rendon
              Jacob deGrom
              Noah Syndergaard
              Josh Hader
              Edwin Diaz
              Stephen Strasburg
              Cody Bellinger (wasn't diamond at that time)
              Acuna Jr (gold at the time)
              Anthony Rizzo (gold at the time)

              I don't remember how I got the Kershaw signature series, I know I didn't buy it... So I'm going to guess I got it in a pack...

              Then there are some guys who dropped from diamond to gold, and I snatched them up right away (Andrew Miller, Jose Ramirez) cause they'll go back up to diamond, and be worth a lot more than they are now. I bought 2 Miller's.

              The packs have been given me some reaisolid pick ups to add to my team. I actually have 2 squads (wish I could have them be autonomous of one another) my needed out 90 overall squad, and my 81 squad with all gold players.

              This year, more than any other I can think of, has sort of helped level the playing field. Doing team collections will yield some solid cards too... Like the Reds (87 Dave Parker)
              Or the Padres (88 Adrian Gonzalez). Some of the collection rewards are low end golds... But they have their own collection that will give out a good amount of stubs, XP and I think another player.
              .
              I got the digital deluxe version, so I also got Roy Oswalt as a bonus... And leveling up (doing the collections, even if you don't complete it) will help you level up quickly, as well as pad your stubs. I've got at least 30 players on most teams. Some I will never finish, unless I get Mike Trout in a pack...

              But if you look into it enough, you'll see that you can boost your team up with diamond player packs every 20 (I think 20) levels you go up. I know that's how silver works... Don't remember how bronze did it.

              You can make it into the WS ranked seasons if you play enough and get some key hits with some solid pitching and defense. Don't be so negative about your squad. There's always a way to boost your players. May cost you a couple bucks... But if that's the mode you most enjoy, dropping another 20, 40, or whatever amount to get stubs to buy packs isn't cheating, it's investing in the games mode that, IMO, is the best way to play.
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              • HypeRNT
                Rookie
                • Apr 2016
                • 368

                #8
                Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                Originally posted by Syce
                you do realize, that those rewards for WS and such are sellable right? if you dont make it to the WS you COULD(if you wanted to), purchase those cards off the AH. yes they are not exactly cheap. but there are also cards you can get that can be better and easier to obtain.
                Since you felt like making obvious statements i guess i can make one too...Yes, of course, i know that there are other ways to get good players and some can be sold but that is not the point of what im discussing...

                The point is that WS is far too hard to achieve for 99% of the player base, and that the rewards for (DD) are simply unbalanced because they are all pretty much useless besides just the WS rewards....

                Some of these responses have nothing to do with what im talking about, yes if you want to grind the game non stop you can earn diamond players... So what? Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

                These rewards should fluctuate, one season its WS, next season its at a different level, having to get grind to WS every single time is overkill and just fuels the guys who are at the top already constantly getting these rewards.

                Im not asking for anything free or out of this planet, just simply stating that maybe its not a bad thing to be able to achieve something worthwhile in DD without having to get the very tippy top level.

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                • LastActionHero
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2453

                  #9
                  Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                  I’ve spend no money at stubs whatsoever and have been stuck between all-star and pennant race in ranked season since...well forever but have a pretty decent diamond team. Not insane, more in the range of 86- 91 overall. Playing moments helped me the most in getting there I must say.
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                  • Bullit
                    Bacon is Better
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5004

                    #10
                    Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                    Originally posted by HypeRNT
                    Since you felt like making obvious statements i guess i can make one too...Yes, of course, i know that there are other ways to get good players and some can be sold but that is not the point of what im discussing...

                    The point is that WS is far too hard to achieve for 99% of the player base, and that the rewards for (DD) are simply unbalanced because they are all pretty much useless besides just the WS rewards....

                    Some of these responses have nothing to do with what im talking about, yes if you want to grind the game non stop you can earn diamond players... So what? Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

                    These rewards should fluctuate, one season its WS, next season its at a different level, having to get grind to WS every single time is overkill and just fuels the guys who are at the top already constantly getting these rewards.

                    Im not asking for anything free or out of this planet, just simply stating that maybe its not a bad thing to be able to achieve something worthwhile in DD without having to get the very tippy top level.

                    So you want a participation trophy for just playing the game? So players that invest time and possibly money to have good teams should be punished and have their accomplishments lessened because you aren't as good as them at the game?

                    Lets move this to the real world for comparison. So by your standards the Yankees should have to give up all of their players because they spent too much money and are too good and the game is too hard for the Orioles?

                    Nah. I'll pass. I think good players should be allowed to be good players. If you want to buy your team and rule the top tiers more power to you. There is a reason I CHOOSE to not play these modes. I don't like them, they don't interest me and I am not good at them. But I don't whine they are too hard. I do bitch that I feel they are ruining single player offline modes and destroying sports gaming as a medium.
                    Last edited by Bullit; 06-19-2019, 03:02 PM.
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                    • BIGROC
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 766

                      #11
                      Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                      Originally posted by HypeRNT
                      Since you felt like making obvious statements i guess i can make one too...Yes, of course, i know that there are other ways to get good players and some can be sold but that is not the point of what im discussing...

                      The point is that WS is far too hard to achieve for 99% of the player base, and that the rewards for (DD) are simply unbalanced because they are all pretty much useless besides just the WS rewards....

                      Some of these responses have nothing to do with what im talking about, yes if you want to grind the game non stop you can earn diamond players... So what? Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

                      These rewards should fluctuate, one season its WS, next season its at a different level, having to get grind to WS every single time is overkill and just fuels the guys who are at the top already constantly getting these rewards.

                      Im not asking for anything free or out of this planet, just simply stating that maybe its not a bad thing to be able to achieve something worthwhile in DD without having to get the very tippy top level.

                      Just out of curiosity, what grind? You can play conquest, which will net you packs and XP, in turn giving you choices to pick players up. You can drop a couple extra bucks, and get players you want. This year they've been (mostly) reasonably priced (Mike Trout isn't worth over 150k in stubs, and neither is Kirby Yates diamond card... That's ridiculous)

                      As I stated previously, almost all of my upper tier players came from packs. And there's plenty of diamond players available for 12k and under, some as low as 5k.


                      I don't get how it's a grind to play baseball, when you got it to play baseball. If you aren't happy with how diamond dynasty works, there's plenty of other modes that you can play...
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                      • BIGROC
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 766

                        #12
                        Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                        If anything, look at the W/L records for ppl in diamond dynasty. A lot of the teams are sub .500...
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                        • BigOscar
                          MVP
                          • May 2016
                          • 2971

                          #13
                          Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                          As much as people like moaning about participation trophies, I do agree that the way RS tis this year is pretty imbalanced, the rewards between Pennant Race and WS are essentially nothing. WC nets you a gold player, DS nets you a bat skin, CS nets you another gold player, that's pretty rubbish rewards.

                          Considering that very few players will get to WS, it doesn't really incentivize the vast majority of players to really push and see how high they can get. If you can get WS, terrific, 150k player, if you are a player who never will get to that level, their isn't much reason to play beyond Pennant Race.

                          For a game that gutted offline play in order to try and force guys online, they could do a better job incentivizing the non-elite players tbh

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                          • SmashMan
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 9708

                            #14
                            Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                            Originally posted by HypeRNT
                            Since you felt like making obvious statements i guess i can make one too...Yes, of course, i know that there are other ways to get good players and some can be sold but that is not the point of what im discussing...

                            The point is that WS is far too hard to achieve for 99% of the player base, and that the rewards for (DD) are simply unbalanced because they are all pretty much useless besides just the WS rewards....

                            Some of these responses have nothing to do with what im talking about, yes if you want to grind the game non stop you can earn diamond players... So what? Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

                            These rewards should fluctuate, one season its WS, next season its at a different level, having to get grind to WS every single time is overkill and just fuels the guys who are at the top already constantly getting these rewards.

                            Im not asking for anything free or out of this planet, just simply stating that maybe its not a bad thing to be able to achieve something worthwhile in DD without having to get the very tippy top level.
                            This is another bunch of words that again do not answer the question here: how would you fix it?

                            You don't like the way something is done. Fine, awesome, okay. What specifically would you do to address it?

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                            • BigOscar
                              MVP
                              • May 2016
                              • 2971

                              #15
                              Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

                              Originally posted by SmashMan
                              This is another bunch of words that again do not answer the question here: how would you fix it?

                              You don't like the way something is done. Fine, awesome, okay. What specifically would you do to address it?
                              It might be the fact that I was a child who grew u in arcades, but I'd give tickets as rewards and have a trade in where you can exchange them for prizes. Maybe getting WS gets you 15 tickets, the price of one of those WS players at the ticket counter, maybe the division below gets you 10 tickets, the division below only 8 etc etc. Maybe you can get a top player for getting into the CS 3 seasons in a row and save up your tickets, that sort of thing. That way, players get incentivized to play RS each season and get as high as they can, while the better players still get the better rewards.

                              Also gives more ways to incentivize going beyond WS if you get even more tickets for getting into the WS+ divisions.


                              Not perfect obviously as that took 2 minutes to think of, but there's definitely room for improvement

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