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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52769

    #31
    Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

    Originally posted by Cold Snap
    Flaunt your cards in 2023 and get back to me.

    I have no idea WTF this means???


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    • BigOscar
      MVP
      • May 2016
      • 2971

      #32
      Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

      Originally posted by countryboy
      I haven't spent anymore than the original purchase price and I'm able to have access to the same cards as everyone else.

      These claims that you are forced to pay additional money and such as absolutely false. Nothing is hidden behind a paywall. You are given the option to either play the game and earn stubs or spend actual currency and buy stubs.

      You get to decide...nothing is forced.
      That's true of all these mobile games and the like, none of them "force" you to pay extra money, but they just encourage you to, at every turn. DD isn't at mobile game levels yet, but it's the direction all these UT games are heading if they aren't discouraged from doing so.

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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #33
        Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

        if you dont like the narrative, change it: loot boxes aren't loot boxes anymore; they are ''surprise mechanics''.

        most of the signature series holds little appeal to me but whatever inning the Chipper Jones Card gets released, I will at the very least attempt to acquire him. I may not succeed, or even try hard but I'll still be somewhat interested in looking into it. :shrugz:
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52769

          #34
          Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

          Originally posted by BigOscar
          That's true of all these mobile games and the like, none of them "force" you to pay extra money, but they just encourage you to, at every turn. DD isn't at mobile game levels yet, but it's the direction all these UT games are heading if they aren't discouraged from doing so.
          Then let's stop accusing them of forcing you to pay extra money to be able to play the game. It's simply not true. That was my point.

          There's nothing wrong with them offering the user the ability to pay additional money as a way of "not playing" the game to get quicker access to stubs/cards. If there is a consumer base that is willing to pay additional funds, then why would SDS, or any game company turn that down?

          There is a consumer base/market for paying real money to access in game content. You may not like it, I may not like it, but it exists and nobody was forced, at least with SDS, to become a part of that consumer base/market.

          Nothing in this game is hidden behind a paywall.
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          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • testorz
            Rookie
            • Jan 2010
            • 282

            #35
            Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

            "These card collecting/ultimate team modes may not be my cup of tea, but they are the "new way to play" sports games these days and are extremely popular"

            I agree but I just don't have time to search and find specific cards for sets and I really don't have time to play the Conquest mode.

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            • GWPump23
              Rookie
              • Dec 2011
              • 361

              #36
              Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

              Originally posted by Bullit
              Sorry, not a fan.

              This to me, just comes across as here are reasons why you should be happy companies are ruining gaming with this whole games as a service online/Ultimate team/loot box/micro transaction crap.

              I have not and will not support or contribute to these modes and will leave each and every title that continues along this path. I have left every other single sports title, leaving The Show and F1 as my only sports games. I no longer play FPS or any of the Battle Royal nonsense. If a game cannot offer me a decent length/developed single player experience, I no longer support those titles. I am happy with The Show 19 and will not move forward until offline/franchise modes start getting some real love.

              Bravo, Sir!

              Didn’t feel that a simple “like” did this post justice...

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              "Never go short in the land of plenty..."

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              • Karle
                Pro
                • Feb 2009
                • 820

                #37
                Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                Last year I played exclusively DD and while the grinds were too much, at least I was playing full games or 3 inning conquest games. This year I abandoned DD as:

                1. In moments and other challenges one only plays bits and pieces of games.

                2. I realized for me playing baseball was more important than collecting cards for players I will never use in games.

                This year, after a number of years playing RTTS and last year DD I now only play Franchise but I am using it like a season mode playing every game myself. I created my own historic players. If one wants to play with a historic player like Ty Cobb or Stan Musial you can create them yourself and play with them in RTTS or Franchise. You used to be able to create your own player in DD, but this does not appear to be a part of this year's DD.

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                • JHodges57
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 507

                  #38
                  Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                  Originally posted by Bartolo Colon
                  If loot boxes are banned, how will that affect the Show in the long run? DD helps fund the game, I’m not interested in playing it but I’m glad it’s in it.

                  I'd be more willing to pay $200 up front for the game than pay $60 and then spend more on microtransactions.

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                  • JHodges57
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 507

                    #39
                    Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Then let's stop accusing them of forcing you to pay extra money to be able to play the game. It's simply not true. That was my point.

                    There's nothing wrong with them offering the user the ability to pay additional money as a way of "not playing" the game to get quicker access to stubs/cards. If there is a consumer base that is willing to pay additional funds, then why would SDS, or any game company turn that down?

                    There is a consumer base/market for paying real money to access in game content. You may not like it, I may not like it, but it exists and nobody was forced, at least with SDS, to become a part of that consumer base/market.

                    Nothing in this game is hidden behind a paywall.

                    Haven't tried top play NBA 2k without spending real money have you? You are pretty much forced to pay to get your player anywhere near a competitive level. The minuscule "rewards" you get after each game (mycareer) will allow you to be competitive in about 3 years which won't work since the game cycle is annual, especially since your player sucks so bad you don't get enough floor time to get more rewards. From what I've read, it's the same for people who play head to head.

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52769

                      #40
                      Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                      Originally posted by JHodges57
                      Haven't tried top play NBA 2k without spending real money have you? You are pretty much forced to pay to get your player anywhere near a competitive level. The minuscule "rewards" you get after each game (mycareer) will allow you to be competitive in about 3 years which won't work since the game cycle is annual, especially since your player sucks so bad you don't get enough floor time to get more rewards. From what I've read, it's the same for people who play head to head.


                      No


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                      • SmashMan
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 9734

                        #41
                        Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                        Originally posted by JHodges57
                        Haven't tried top play NBA 2k without spending real money have you? You are pretty much forced to pay to get your player anywhere near a competitive level. The minuscule "rewards" you get after each game (mycareer) will allow you to be competitive in about 3 years which won't work since the game cycle is annual, especially since your player sucks so bad you don't get enough floor time to get more rewards. From what I've read, it's the same for people who play head to head.
                        Okay, but the way 2K runs business has nothing to do with how Sony San Diego does.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #42
                          Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                          Originally posted by SmashMan
                          Okay, but the way 2K runs business has nothing to do with how Sony San Diego does.
                          that reminds me, let me add to my 2020 wishlisht: I wish the Show played more like Red Dead Redemption
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                          • dalger21
                            #realtalk
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1932

                            #43
                            Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                            Originally posted by nemesis04
                            The Show has their target audience and I know I don’t fit in it anymore which is fine things change.
                            This is very true. Once SDS introduced DD and microtransactions, it was clear who their target audience was and it is definitely not people like me that want nothing to do with RNG related loot box systems. Hard pass for me.




                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            I have no idea WTF this means???


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                            It means cards have zero value outside of the year you have them. Meaning, you can't take them to next year's game. It the same issue that Call of Duty has run into. Once the cycle is over, the value of things you purchased via microtransactions are reduced to zero unless you are able to take it to next years game, which, of course, you aren't able to do. It's a cycle.
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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52769

                              #44
                              Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                              Originally posted by dalger21
                              It means cards have zero value outside of the year you have them. Meaning, you can't take them to next year's game. It the same issue that Call of Duty has run into. Once the cycle is over, the value of things you purchased via microtransactions are reduced to zero unless you are able to take it to next years game, which, of course, you aren't able to do. It's a cycle.
                              But you know that going in. You know what you're getting for your money. If you don't want to spend real money to buy cards that you will only have for that game and until the servers are shut down, then don't spend the money.

                              Guys are acting as if you're required to pay real money in addition to the purchase price to play the game which is completely false, no matter how one tris to spin it or how many times one claims it.
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • Cold Snap
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2018
                                • 207

                                #45
                                Re: MLB The Show 19 Sets New Gold Standard for Content

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                But you know that going in. You know what you're getting for your money. If you don't want to spend real money to buy cards that you will only have for that game and until the servers are shut down, then don't spend the money.
                                "It's not MY fault for tricking you, it's YOUR fault for falling for it."

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