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  • Rocket32
    MVP
    • May 2016
    • 1639

    #16
    Re: The future of MLB The Show

    Originally posted by mariner690
    It’s....a.....video....game

    If allowing people to customize jerseys or relocate teams has any negative effect on MLB as an industry they have much bigger problems on their hands.

    Last I checked the NFL and NBA are not about to collapse after having it in their video games.


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    To be fair to the MLB, the NFL is still pretty strict about it as well it seems even though they did allow it to be added to the game. EA’s version of the features are pretty basic with little to no customization. Can’t confirm this is 100% true but I heard the reason EA hasn’t built on it at since adding it several years ago is that the NFL won’t allow them to make it less restricted.

    Makes sense to me. Why else would they just add it and completely abandon it? A bit off topic, but seems like the NBA is the only league that doesn’t care about full blown relocation and rebranding being in a video game.

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    • Cod
      MVP
      • May 2007
      • 2717

      #17
      Re: The future of MLB The Show

      I'd like to see SDS pick one major portion of the game (or engine) and focus on it 100%. For example, devote the majority of the team to research and development of the physics engine. They should study the biology of a specific motion (hitting) and find a way to implement it to the fullest extent possible. Once this is complete, the findings can be implemented into the animation engine for a total package.

      Natural Motion did this with their Euphoria engine a decade ago and it was used in GTA V (and maybe RDR2?). Just look at the tech demo, what they did 10 years ago is beyond anything we've seen in a sports game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLaMN9dnjQ. I am aware the company produced Backbreaker using Euphoria as the physics engine, but NM is not a game developer for consoles. They're focused on middleware and mobile games. I'm sure Euphoria isn't the only one out there, but it provides an easy example.

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      • HarlemYankee
        Rookie
        • Jun 2011
        • 265

        #18
        Re: The future of MLB The Show

        Originally posted by Vanilla_Gorilla
        In the age of loot boxes and silly online modes, franchise is unfortunately an afterthought because it’s not the cash cow it used to be.



        I mean hell, we had to wait until 2019 to get realistic contracts and extensions. Really?



        That being said there are a few things that need major upgrades:



        1) Morale System. Enough said.



        2) Scouting and Draft. I think the draft should be customizable via how many rounds you want it to be. I think you should be able to select how many rounds you want per draft, 10-29 and allow scouts to be assigned to more than one prospect or be able to scout an array of prospects from a certain region.



        3) More customizable rosters. Ability to import/export any player would be fantastic and would really ease the headache of updating rosters as the year goes on. I mean, is it really

        that much to ask??



        4) Ability to relocate and build new stadiums. SDS is WAY behind on this one. With the Rays possibly moving to Montreal and the Rangers building their new stadium, SDS has no excuse not to capitalize off those and make their own Relocation/New Stadium features.



        5) More comprehensible budget. Knowing exactly how much your budget will be year in and out is crucial to franchise planning. Being able to have more control over your revenue and a more in-depth system of losing and gaining is revenue would be a much needed increase to the depth and immersion of franchise.


        The budgetary elements are great and all but as a baseball fan... Where are the stats? The leaderboards? I’d love it if there were career/season/game leaderboards in stats instead of just like 6 records, most of them unbreakable. Baseball fans love stats. Why not be better at tracking them and your achievements a la the NBA2K player cards?


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        • Cod
          MVP
          • May 2007
          • 2717

          #19
          Re: The future of MLB The Show

          Also, if this game is really going to progress for non-DD players, the base game needs to cost around $89.99 (or possibly more). The fact that we've gone two console generations with no price change in games is baffling to me.

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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #20
            Re: The future of MLB The Show

            Originally posted by Cod
            Also, if this game is really going to progress for non-DD players, the base game needs to cost around $89.99 (or possibly more). The fact that we've gone two console generations with no price change in games is baffling to me.
            My gaming days would be over if games became that price.
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            • Cod
              MVP
              • May 2007
              • 2717

              #21
              Re: The future of MLB The Show

              Originally posted by nemesis04
              My gaming days would be over if games became that price.
              So you expect AAA level games, like The Show, to gradually get better while their profit margin shrinks to almost nothing? You're making more money due to inflation than you did during the PS3 days (I hope), so I don't get why you'd be upset if companies charged you more for things.

              Software engineers cost a lot of money to employ and less and less are going into the industry because of lower pay, crunch, etc. There's a simple fix, want better games...pay more money.

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              • dalger21
                #realtalk
                • Feb 2010
                • 1932

                #22
                Re: The future of MLB The Show

                Originally posted by Cod
                So you expect AAA level games, like The Show, to gradually get better while their profit margin shrinks to almost nothing? You're making more money due to inflation than you did during the PS3 days (I hope), so I don't get why you'd be upset if companies charged you more for things.

                Software engineers cost a lot of money to employ and less and less are going into the industry because of lower pay, crunch, etc. There's a simple fix, want better games...pay more money.
                Companies do not make money with the purchase of their game nowadays. The money to be had is in microtransactions, which is why more and more companies are implementing them in their game.
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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #23
                  Re: The future of MLB The Show

                  Originally posted by Cod
                  So you expect AAA level games, like The Show, to gradually get better while their profit margin shrinks to almost nothing? You're making more money due to inflation than you did during the PS3 days (I hope), so I don't get why you'd be upset if companies charged you more for things.

                  Software engineers cost a lot of money to employ and less and less are going into the industry because of lower pay, crunch, etc. There's a simple fix, want better games...pay more money.
                  I don’t have issue with reasonable bumps along the way but a 50% jump in gaming price is insane. Also, there is no guarantee we would be getting a dramatically better game for the price paid.
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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #24
                    Re: The future of MLB The Show

                    I would think once year-to-year sports games had a foundation laid, especially with stadiums, they wouldn't have to employ as many people or spend as much money as long as they didnt do a complete overhaul. so I really wouldn't expect as big a price jump for them like non-sports games. I know they try to add new stuff but I'd still expect non-sports games to cost more.
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                    • Jeffrey Smith
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1925

                      #25
                      Re: The future of MLB The Show

                      Out of curiosity I googled the gaming industry earnings. Was $138 Billion. An increase of $16 billion from the previous year.

                      They’re not hurting.


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                      • Cod
                        MVP
                        • May 2007
                        • 2717

                        #26
                        Re: The future of MLB The Show

                        Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
                        Out of curiosity I googled the gaming industry earnings. Was $138 Billion. An increase of $16 billion from the previous year.

                        They’re not hurting.

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                        Does the site you looked at break down the numbers further? I'd be interested to know how much is earned from initial sales vs "post launch" sales (DLC, etc.). In 2017, FIFA Ultimate Team brought in a net revenue of over $800 million (USD). At $59.99 per game, it'd take approximately 12 million units sold to equal that number.

                        The future of The Show goes where the money is because no matter what, the industry is still a business.

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                        • Jeffrey Smith
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1925

                          #27
                          Re: The future of MLB The Show

                          Originally posted by Cod
                          Does the site you looked at break down the numbers further? I'd be interested to know how much is earned from initial sales vs "post launch" sales (DLC, etc.). In 2017, FIFA Ultimate Team brought in a net revenue of over $800 million (USD). At $59.99 per game, it'd take approximately 12 million units sold to equal that number.

                          The future of The Show goes where the money is because no matter what, the industry is still a business.


                          Sorry but I didn’t look that in depth at it. I just read the first paragraph for the number I was looking for and moved on. I have no idea how accurate those numbers are either.

                          Guess I’d never make it as an investigator reporter haha.


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                          • Jeffrey Smith
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1925

                            #28
                            Re: The future of MLB The Show

                            Went back and read more of the article. Seems like 47% of that $ is from mobile games alone.

                            So maybe the console game earnings are actually not as strong as I thought.

                            But I still wouldn’t want to be paying 90$ (120 Canadian?) for a video game. That’d hurt my wallet way too much.


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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #29
                              Re: The future of MLB The Show

                              Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
                              Went back and read more of the article. Seems like 47% of that $ is from mobile games alone.

                              So maybe the console game earnings are actually not as strong as I thought.




                              But I still wouldn’t want to be paying 90$ (120 Canadian?) for a video game. That’d hurt my wallet way too much.








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                              there are a handful of games worth $90 but the vast majority aren't even worth $30 IMO. As for the Show's future, I cant see a price increase until the PSSIX, so we should be good for the next decade.
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