Pitchers not being used (bug)

[Aviator87AC]

Recently I noticed that a starting arm I had sent down to the minors awhile back was still sitting at 0-0 with an ERA of 0.00

Really annoying bug consider there's nothing wrong with him and I can't seem to force the CPU to start him, despite being in the starting rotation. Does anyone know how to fix? As an experiment I simmed ahead a few months and the CPU never used him (they are basically using a 4-man rotation, skipping him each start).

[countryboy]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

Recently I noticed that a starting arm I had sent down to the minors awhile back was still sitting at 0-0 with an ERA of 0.00

Really annoying bug consider there's nothing wrong with him and I can't seem to force the CPU to start him, despite being in the starting rotation. Does anyone know how to fix? As an experiment I simmed ahead a few months and the CPU never used him (they are basically using a 4-man rotation, skipping him each start).

The only fix I know of is to QUICK MANAGE the game to ensure that he starts, then you can sim to the end so you don't have to "play it out".

[Aviator87AC]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

The only fix I know of is to QUICK MANAGE the game to ensure that he starts, then you can sim to the end so you don't have to "play it out".

Good advice and I think that'll mostly work but it's a concerning bug (who else isn't getting playing time, etc?).

Does anyone know what causes it and how to prevent it from happening again?

[countryboy]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

Good advice and I think that'll mostly work but it's a concerning bug (who else isn't getting playing time, etc?).

Does anyone know what causes it and how to prevent it from happening again?

I am not sure because I QUICK MANAGE all my minor league games.

I like to have a "hands on" approach with my minor league clubs and how they are managed and who plays and when.

[Syce]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

there has been some weird issues the past few days that i have seen atleast my self as well.

the issue i seem to have is the CPU using the same starting pitcher in back to back games in RTTS. so i was playing my shortstop and was playing the orioles so game 1 of the series Dylan Bundy was the starter. then the 2nd game had Dylan Bundy start again.

so while not the same problem as OP, its just weird AI issues that have been popping up.

[countryboy]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

there has been some weird issues the past few days that i have seen atleast my self as well.

the issue i seem to have is the CPU using the same starting pitcher in back to back games in RTTS. so i was playing my shortstop and was playing the orioles so game 1 of the series Dylan Bundy was the starter. then the 2nd game had Dylan Bundy start again.

so while not the same problem as OP, its just weird AI issues that have been popping up.

I've seen this in franchise mode as well.

Did the Orioles have an injury or do a roster move that you know of? I'm not sure if you can see team transactions in RTTS as I don't dabble in it, but that is the culprit in franchise mode.

[Syce]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

I've seen this in franchise mode as well.

Did the Orioles have an injury or do a roster move that you know of? I'm not sure if you can see team transactions in RTTS as I don't dabble in it, but that is the culprit in franchise mode.

could have, but not sure tbh.

[Aviator87AC]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug - FIXED)

I fixed it.

I believe the issue is with how MLBTS handles rotation order and really it's a larger problem that SDS needs to address.

Without cracking into the files, my guess is the code uses an indexed list to handle rotations with each starting pitcher being assigned a number 1-5. When roster changes are made there is an edge case where the pitcher being recalled or sent down is not properly indexed into the rotation. This was the problem for me.

It took a couple hours of roster experimentation and simming/reloading to nail down a fix, but this was the only solution that worked. I recalled Nick Margevicius (the tainted pitcher) to the MLB and sent down Dinelson Lamet in his spot to start the next game at AAA. I then had to sim only 1 game at the AAA level before swapping the two pitchers again. I then simmed ahead several months and everything seems fine.

I don't know how the bug manifested or how to reproduce but it's indicative of the bizarre method SDS uses to handle rotation order.

[tribefanisu2003]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug - FIXED)

I fixed it.



I believe the issue is with how MLBTS handles rotation order and really it's a larger problem that SDS needs to address.



Without cracking into the files, my guess is the code uses an indexed list to handle rotations with each starting pitcher being assigned a number 1-5. When roster changes are made there is an edge case where the pitcher being recalled or sent down is not properly indexed into the rotation. This was the problem for me.



It took a couple hours of roster experimentation and simming/reloading to nail down a fix, but this was the only solution that worked. I recalled Nick Margevicius (the tainted pitcher) to the MLB and sent down Dinelson Lamet in his spot to start the next game at AAA. I then had to sim only 1 game at the AAA level before swapping the two pitchers again. I then simmed ahead several months and everything seems fine.



I don't know how the bug manifested or how to reproduce but it's indicative of the bizarre method SDS uses to handle rotation order.

Glad to have found this, this bug has bothered me so much. What an odd workaround and I hate to have to use options for someone (if I’m understanding your fix correctly), but I appreciate your research and posting the fix. Hopefully this makes its way to SDS’s attention for a “proper” fix for 20.


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[newhope1000]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

Change him
Higher in the rotation


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[Aviator87AC]

Re: Pitchers not being used (bug)

Glad to have found this, this bug has bothered me so much. What an odd workaround and I hate to have to use options for someone (if I’m understanding your fix correctly), but I appreciate your research and posting the fix. Hopefully this makes its way to SDS’s attention for a “proper” fix for 20.


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

Happy to have helped. These forums are comatose so I'll probably head to Reddit with the info.

Change him
Higher in the rotation

No that doesn't do anything. I did trial and error sim runs and the only thing that resolved the bug was my fix.