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  • jcar0725
    "ADAPT OR DIE"
    • Aug 2010
    • 3821

    #1

    Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

    At the lower difficulties, pitching is way too easy. At the higher difficulties, I get smacked around the yard. I'm trying to find that nice, realistic difficulty location to lock in. I mean, average pitchers against a good hitter, it seems like every time that good hitter absolutely toys with me, not like 3 out of every 10 times, more like 9 out of every 10 times......any advice?

    Just looking for a realistic result. I don't want to sit at a lower difficulty and dominate that's no fun...
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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52784

    #2
    Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

    My advice would be to play on Dynamic difficulty for pitching. It will start you out at Rookie but progress you to your level based on how you perform.

    I personally do not use it so I'm not sure how quickly it progresses, but that would be my best advice for you.

    Hope you find something that works!
    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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    • KnightTemplar
      MVP
      • Feb 2017
      • 3282

      #3
      Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

      If you have the hot/cold zones ON, trying turning if off. I've always played this way.

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      • jcar0725
        "ADAPT OR DIE"
        • Aug 2010
        • 3821

        #4
        Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

        Originally posted by countryboy
        My advice would be to play on Dynamic difficulty for pitching. It will start you out at Rookie but progress you to your level based on how you perform.

        I personally do not use it so I'm not sure how quickly it progresses, but that would be my best advice for you.

        Hope you find something that works!
        I was using dynamic, and I was dominating for too long, what I'm saying is I don't really want to be at a spot where I'm winning games based on my difficulty level, I'm looking for where's the best difficulty to represent realism.

        I know that with hitting its based on my timing, and ability to read pitches and react to them, also with my hitter's abilities too.

        But with pitching it's different. I mix up pitches, throw it in and out of the zone, avoid middle of the plate, etc, and at the higher difficulties I still get destroyed almost the entire game.
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        • Ace2734
          Rookie
          • Aug 2015
          • 437

          #5
          Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

          Pitching has always been easier than hitting just like Madden defense will always be harder than offense. (For the most part I guess.)

          I would suggest dynamic pitching or HOF/Legend without the strike zone graphic on screen. Also lower human pitcher control and consistency sliders and see if this makes it more challenging.


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          • jcar0725
            "ADAPT OR DIE"
            • Aug 2010
            • 3821

            #6
            Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

            Originally posted by KnightTemplar
            If you have the hot/cold zones ON, trying turning if off. I've always played this way.
            What does turning them on or off do? I always thought they just showed you areas to avoid when facing that hitter.
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            • jcar0725
              "ADAPT OR DIE"
              • Aug 2010
              • 3821

              #7
              Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

              Originally posted by Ace2734
              Pitching has always been easier than hitting just like Madden defense will always be harder than offense. (For the most part I guess.)

              I would suggest dynamic pitching or HOF/Legend without the strike zone graphic on screen. Also lower human pitcher control and consistency sliders and see if this makes it more challenging.


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              In reality my problem is I'm either dominating at the lower diff, or getting crushed at the higher diff. I just want a realistic setting. Maybe the issue is how I pitch and not the actual setting.
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              • Ace2734
                Rookie
                • Aug 2015
                • 437

                #8
                Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                Originally posted by jcar0725
                In reality my problem is I'm either dominating at the lower diff, or getting crushed at the higher diff. I just want a realistic setting. Maybe the issue is how I pitch and not the actual setting.


                Oh right my bad I started thinking about my own The Show problems :-D

                I would definitely try dynamic pitching and see how far you can go. Not everyone can pitch on the highest difficulty. I certainly can’t hit on it.


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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52784

                  #9
                  Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                  Originally posted by jcar0725
                  I was using dynamic, and I was dominating for too long, what I'm saying is I don't really want to be at a spot where I'm winning games based on my difficulty level, I'm looking for where's the best difficulty to represent realism.

                  I know that with hitting its based on my timing, and ability to read pitches and react to them, also with my hitter's abilities too.

                  But with pitching it's different. I mix up pitches, throw it in and out of the zone, avoid middle of the plate, etc, and at the higher difficulties I still get destroyed almost the entire game.
                  Well that's the thing, personal ability comes into play, so suggesting a difficulty to provide the best realism is impossible.

                  I personally play on default Legend and get great results. Others play on Hall of Fame, All-Star, or lower and get realistic results.

                  It's all based on user skill and ability to find that sweet spot which is why I think progressing through Dynamic difficulty may be the best option for you.
                  I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52784

                    #10
                    Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                    The only other advice that I can offer is that if you're not using the Pitcher/Batter analysis information, I highly recommend it, especially on higher difficulties.

                    The CPU is good at recognizing pitching patterns, and do so from hitter to hitter. So if you're pitching the same pattern to the entire lineup or the same pattern to each individual hitter, then the CPU will recognize it and start "sitting" on those pitches which raises their chance of success.
                    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                    Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                    • jcar0725
                      "ADAPT OR DIE"
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3821

                      #11
                      Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                      This is all good info. Thanks guys. I'll try to make adjustments to how I'm pitching.

                      Like I said dynamic was working fine for me but I was dominating too much because it never went higher than say, VETERAN+. Any time I went higher I was getting crushed and it would go back down to VETERAN+.
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                      • KnightTemplar
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 3282

                        #12
                        Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                        Originally posted by jcar0725
                        What does turning them on or off do? I always thought they just showed you areas to avoid when facing that hitter.
                        Well, I don’t know how you play, but a lot of gamers (or it wouldn’t be there) use the cold zones of a batter pretty exclusively. They will spend a lot of time aiming for the cold zones which, if it works as intended, should give the gamer a big advantage when pitching. It would certainly help on lower levels, and if you find hitting at upper levels too hard.
                        Last edited by KnightTemplar; 01-17-2020, 10:47 AM.

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                        • jcar0725
                          "ADAPT OR DIE"
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3821

                          #13
                          Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                          Well, I don’t know how you play, but a lot of gamers (or it wouldn’t be there) use the cold zones of a batter pretty exclusively. They will spend a lot of time aiming for the cold zones which, if it works as intended, should give the gamer a big advantage when pitching.
                          Okay yeah, that's what I assumed they were for, got it.
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                          • RustedWalleye
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 824

                            #14
                            Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                            I always had that ability to really dominate at All-Star, pitch ok at HOF and then suck at Legend. I think personal ability affects each level like another said.

                            Once i started thinking about who I was facing, staying away from certain areas, especially to left handed hitters, my pitching then drastically improved. I started watching who I was pitching with and even match-ups. I am a zone pitcher when I play with leads me to give up more hits than normal, but I find once I give up that hit I then concentrate better even with the higher difficulties and can real in my mistakes.

                            I also manipulate the meter and don't always go for the perfect pitch. I find when I am planned outside of the zone, I can change speeds and directions to get a more positive result. It does leave you more vulnerable, but for me it works a lot, especially with a human opponent.

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                            • jcar0725
                              "ADAPT OR DIE"
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3821

                              #15
                              Re: Looking for that pitching "sweet spot"

                              Originally posted by RustedWalleye
                              I always had that ability to really dominate at All-Star, pitch ok at HOF and then suck at Legend. I think personal ability affects each level like another said.

                              Once i started thinking about who I was facing, staying away from certain areas, especially to left handed hitters, my pitching then drastically improved. I started watching who I was pitching with and even match-ups. I am a zone pitcher when I play with leads me to give up more hits than normal, but I find once I give up that hit I then concentrate better even with the higher difficulties and can real in my mistakes.

                              I also manipulate the meter and don't always go for the perfect pitch. I find when I am planned outside of the zone, I can change speeds and directions to get a more positive result. It does leave you more vulnerable, but for me it works a lot, especially with a human opponent.
                              I use the classic, buttons for pitching. I always thought that gives me the most realism. I think from what I'm hearing, I suck at HOF pitching because of how I am pitching.
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