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  • Bartolo Colon
    MVP
    • Mar 2015
    • 1234

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

    Originally posted by jfen31
    Gotta keep chasing those mythical "casuals."


    The comedy in the trailer really wasn’t for me but if it can help attract a younger audience (even just on a micro scale) then I’m fine having robots and puppets in the promotion process.

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    • TheBleedingRed21
      Game Dev
      • Oct 2010
      • 5071

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

      So did they just confirm perfect perfect does result in automatic hits...?

      It was stated that getting perfect perfect would mean you are rewarded.
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      • dbekoscke
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 337

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

        Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
        So did they just confirm perfect perfect does result in automatic hits...?

        It was stated that getting perfect perfect would mean you are rewarded.
        SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.

        I don't understand why this automatic hits narrative keeps being brought up.

        I have no 'insider' information, but if I'm wrong about this, I will say that I was wrong after the stream on Thursday. I just know that automatic hits would make absolutely no sense in a sim game of a sport in which an all-star hitter fails roughly 70% of the time.

        This is baseball boys. Sometimes you hit that screaming line drive directly at the center fielder.
        Last edited by dbekoscke; 02-04-2020, 02:38 PM.

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        • DamnYanks2
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2007
          • 20794

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

          Hmmm. Very interesting.

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          • TheBleedingRed21
            Game Dev
            • Oct 2010
            • 5071

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

            Originally posted by dbekoscke
            SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.
            Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.

            How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.

            Edit::

            Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.
            Last edited by TheBleedingRed21; 02-04-2020, 02:44 PM.
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            • dbekoscke
              Rookie
              • Oct 2012
              • 337

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

              Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
              Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.

              How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.

              Edit::

              Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.
              Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.

              Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.

              I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!

              Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)

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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                Originally posted by dbekoscke
                SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.

                I don't understand why this automatic hits narrative keeps being brought up.


                I have no 'insider' information, but if I'm wrong about this, I will say that I was wrong after the stream on Thursday. I just know that automatic hits would make absolutely no sense in a sim game of a sport in which an all-star hitter fails roughly 70% of the time.


                This is baseball boys. Sometimes you hit that screaming line drive directly at the center fielder.

                Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.


                How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.


                Edit::


                Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.
                and this is exactly why Sony's got a tricky fine line to try to balance itself on. but if any baseball game can pull off this type gameplay, it's this one.
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                • TheBleedingRed21
                  Game Dev
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 5071

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                  Originally posted by dbekoscke
                  Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.

                  Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.

                  I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!

                  Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
                  I agree, we all are pretty like minded around here (sim) and want the best baseball game possible. But we all know this is a video game and that is why I’m afraid that is the case. They can easily force hits (I’m sure they can do this in debug already). But either way, let’s wait for Thursday!!
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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                    Originally posted by dbekoscke
                    I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
                    this is why you have to have a backup PS at work, if at all possible. and then you just start ''working'' late
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                    • Padgoi
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1873

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                      Originally posted by dbekoscke
                      Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.



                      Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.



                      I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!



                      Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
                      You're the third person I've seen mention ball physics. Ball physics are coded into the game. They are not real physics. It's code. Anything can be coded into the game. Physics cannot. It is quasi-physics, aka the best representation of physics they can get via code.

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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                        Originally posted by Padgoi
                        You're the third person I've seen mention ball physics. Ball physics are coded into the game. They are not real physics. It's code. Anything can be coded into the game. Physics cannot. It is quasi-physics, aka the best representation of physics they can get via code.

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                        we probably just use that terminology because that's how the Studio brands it. when in Rome...
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                        • Padgoi
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1873

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          we probably just use that terminology because that's how the Studio brands it. when in Rome...
                          When in Rome...
                          Use proper terminology.

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                          • nemesis04
                            RIP Ty My Buddy
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 13530

                            #28
                            Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                            Well, perfect - perfect is not about barreling, the masses have won.
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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #29
                              Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                              were those new airline routes at Citi Field? Must be a JFK flight.
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                              • Retropyro
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 796

                                #30
                                Re: MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

                                Nope. Not buying the hype again. I'll watch players streams a month after release and decide from there. Stayed away from 18, got suckered back with 19 and regretted it almost immediately.
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