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  • Godgers12
    MVP
    • Dec 2012
    • 2265

    #1

    Position Changes

    When going about position changes what do you guys look for when moving a prospect from the outfield to the infield, or the rotation to the pen and vise versa, and what ratings edits do you make if any to accommodate the switch? I find in my Mariners franchise I have a sudden influx of too many OF prospects combined with already established big leaguers and I don't want to have a situation where they're blocked. My big league OF consists of Kyle Lewis, Greg Jones (traded for from TB, converted to CF), and Christian Pache (got in a deal that sent Haniger to ATL), with Julio Rodriguez, and Jarred Kelenic waiting in the wings.

    I'm especially curious about the rotation to the pen and vise versa. Because I have starters that aren't cutting it, but have live arms, and BP arms that have a good 3-4 pitch mix and good command. What ratings changes if any should I make when I move a player, and what are your shared experiences doing this?

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  • MightyMaxxx13
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 407

    #2
    Re: Position Changes

    I have rules for position changes in my franchise.

    For position players: I can only move them to one of their secondary positions (IE I’m not turning shortstops into catchers). And ONLY right before or right after spring training (so as not to interfere with any mid-season progression). No edits to players mid-season.

    I can convert starters to relievers. When I do, I have to adjust their stamina down and their /9 attributes up (in proportion) until they get back to the same overall rating they were at as a starter.

    I can convert relievers to starters but I can’t adjust their stamina up. (So basically I’m only doing this for guys with 60+ stamina).

    I try to only make these edits if I feel it is a long term change. I try to never mess with actual attribute ratings.

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    • TheWarmWind
      MVP
      • Apr 2015
      • 2620

      #3
      Re: Position Changes

      I make position edits all the time based on needs or the players profile ie if their attributes seem more suited to a different position. I never edit attributes, except when it comes to pitchers, where I'm allowed to trade 1 for 1 between stamina and durability (though this trade is only available during the off season).

      The idea is that if a pitcher is trying to stretch out their innings, it'll adversely effect their durability. Likewise a move to the pen and less concern about stamina will raise durability. This also allows for the natural development of stamina at your discretion while imposing natural limits.

      I find that position edits with no consequences work out fine because it doesn't always take. I have a center fielder who I twice tried to convert to a third baseman, and despite being an above average fielder in the outfield he was a disaster at 3rd.

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      • TonyMoraco15
        Rookie
        • Mar 2019
        • 180

        #4
        Re: Position Changes

        Originally posted by MightyMaxxx13
        I have rules for position changes in my franchise.

        For position players: I can only move them to one of their secondary positions (IE I’m not turning shortstops into catchers). And ONLY right before or right after spring training (so as not to interfere with any mid-season progression). No edits to players mid-season.

        I can convert starters to relievers. When I do, I have to adjust their stamina down and their /9 attributes up (in proportion) until they get back to the same overall rating they were at as a starter.

        I can convert relievers to starters but I can’t adjust their stamina up. (So basically I’m only doing this for guys with 60+ stamina).

        I try to only make these edits if I feel it is a long term change. I try to never mess with actual attribute ratings.

        I go by this same principle, only thing tho for me, I only touch stamina ratings on pitchers and nothing else never.

        Kudos brother.

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        • Unlucky 13
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 1707

          #5
          Re: Position Changes

          If I change a position players primary spot, then I try to be realistic about it. A big, slow powerful guy might move from 1B to LF, and a small, fast guy from 2B to CF.

          I don't generally adjust pitchers, because it just doesn't feel realistic. If I have a lights out closer with extremely high ratings but bad stamina, how do I move up the stamina enough to make him viable as a starter without instantly making him a HOFer?

          At the major league level, I put starters in the pen all the time as long relievers, but leave their position alone. If he then improves enough to later be in the rotation, great! That's like in real life.
          Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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          • Detroit Tigers
            MVP
            • Mar 2018
            • 1376

            #6
            Re: Position Changes

            ^i never move RPs to starters but I move starters to the pen all the time (but if I do it’s permanent). For rating I knock their stam down somewhere into the 25-35 range then give +2 to velocity and +2 to H/9 and K/9, leaving the rest the same.
            Just one man’s opinion.
            I don’t actually care about any of this.

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            • Coachwf
              Pro
              • Nov 2005
              • 600

              #7
              Re: Position Changes

              Do players ever automatically add a 2nd position if you play them at that position or do always have to edit them?

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              • Unlucky 13
                MVP
                • Apr 2009
                • 1707

                #8
                Re: Position Changes

                Originally posted by Coachwf
                Do players ever automatically add a 2nd position if you play them at that position or do always have to edit them?
                Sadly, they do not. That's something that we've been asking for for years now.
                Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                • garry1221
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 152

                  #9
                  Re: Position Changes

                  I generally try to only move to a secondary positions. The exception to that rule is a good, middle field power bat with no secondary position may get secondary edits to work the corners. If I have no 1st base secondaries on a team, I'll add 1B to a IF with best power.

                  I echo pitcher edits above. IMO a SP should have 65 STA, so if needed I will edit a 60 STA RP up to 65, and drop DUR to match. A rule I have for this is: if these moves will drop DUR below 60, it can't be made.

                  All in all, I use much of what's already posted. Really wish secondaries weren't as static as they are.

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                  • Detroit Tigers
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1376

                    #10
                    Position Changes

                    pls delete
                    Last edited by Detroit Tigers; 05-02-2020, 03:18 AM.
                    Just one man’s opinion.
                    I don’t actually care about any of this.

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