I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

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  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1873

    #1

    I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

    I don't hide my frustration with the game and never have over the years, you all know this. And honestly, over the last few weeks, I've been very quiet, primarily because I was REALLY enjoying the game. This year's version of the game was truly enjoyable to me for the first time in years! And then... the dreaded patches happened.

    Listen, we know why patches happen. The DD tweenies get upset that the game is too hard and complain on the show forum, basically forcing the developers to appease their larger, more lucrative demographic and alter the gameplay in ways that we, the hardcore franchise audience, do not particularly care for. But when those patches break things that worked perfectly before and are released, we are now forced to play with a subpar product. And the worst part is there's very little we can do unless we disconnect our consoles from the internet to prevent those flawed patches from downloading.

    Take the following example, which I had never seen before the latest patch.

    Case #1: fast forward the below video to the 32 minute mark. You will see the Angels playing the Orioles (my friend is controlling the Halos). The score is 6-2 Halos and the Orioles are batting. Pedro Severino hits a line drive down the right field line. The right fielder runs to the wall to retrieve what should be an easy double. As he gets to the wall, the fielder, clearly in the middle of a seizure, fails to pick up the ball while my friend is literally standing on top of the ball. He literally runs back to the ball after failing to pick it up the first time and tries again but again, the fielder is caught in some type of self-pleasuring activity and cannot pick up the ball. By the time the fielder finally picks up the ball, Severino has run around the bases for an absolutely ridiculous inside the park home run. Joy.

    Case #2: same video, fast forward to the 1 hour and 3 minute mark if you will. We are now in the top of the 11th inning of a tie ballgame. Justin Anderson is pitching to Austin Hayes. Hayes strikes out on 3 pitches, but the ball bounces in the dirt. The catcher retrieves the ball to throw to first to get the runner out. Seems like a harmless play. BUT WAIT! This is no ordinary play. As the catcher picks up the ball, he calmly, in no apparent rush at all, decides to wheel around, call his mom, take a shower, plan a trip and eat dinner before finally getting around to throwing the ball, allowing the runner to reach first safely on yet another absolutely bone-headed flaw.

    After so many iterations of this game, it is completely unacceptable to allow flaws like this to occur without placing full blame on the developers for shoddy work. Yes, I understand the current situation of the world. I understand working conditions are not ideal. So if you don't have sufficient time to test your patches before releasing, by all means, use your better judgment and don't release them! Issues like this did not happen before the patch (at least not to me) and the fact that they are happening now is completely ludicrous.

    Here's the video:




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  • LastActionHero
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 2453

    #2
    Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

    Originally posted by Padgoi

    Case #2: same video, fast forward to the 1 hour and 3 minute mark if you will. We are now in the top of the 11th inning of a tie ballgame. Justin Anderson is pitching to Austin Hayes. Hayes strikes out on 3 pitches, but the ball bounces in the dirt. The catcher retrieves the ball to throw to first to get the runner out. Seems like a harmless play. BUT WAIT! This is no ordinary play. As the catcher picks up the ball, he calmly, in no apparent rush at all, decides to wheel around, call his mom, take a shower, plan a trip and eat dinner before finally getting around to throwing the ball, allowing the runner to reach first safely on yet another absolutely bone-headed flaw.
    I’ve had this happen as well! Often the runner is still out but waaaay too close of a play where the catcher shouldn’t be so damn slow.

    The jogging of the batter to first sometimes also boggles my mind. On some hits between the shortstop and the thirdbaseman that wouldn’t be an easy out at all the runner just jogs to 1st which makes him a sure out [emoji2373]

    By the way, what batting camera are you using?
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    • Padgoi
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 1873

      #3
      Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

      Originally posted by LastActionHero
      I’ve had this happen as well! Often the runner is still out but waaaay too close of a play where the catcher shouldn’t be so damn slow.

      The jogging of the batter to first sometimes also boggles my mind. On some hits between the shortstop and the thirdbaseman that wouldn’t be an easy out at all the runner just jogs to 1st which makes him a sure out [emoji2373]

      By the way, what batting camera are you using?
      This is my friend playing but I think he uses either show 15 or show 16 camera angle when hitting.

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      • shark547
        Pro
        • Jun 2014
        • 666

        #4
        Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

        I had a new one today....man on second....base hit grounder to center field hit pretty hard....I know I will have a play at home....but....nope Ricky Henderson in center is running towards the CF wall instead of in towards the ball.....so no play at home....

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        • JHodges57
          Pro
          • Mar 2019
          • 507

          #5
          Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

          Isn't there a setting on the PS that you can stop automatic updates?


          I've seen the one with the catcher taking all day to throw to first.
          Last edited by JHodges57; 04-14-2020, 04:22 AM.

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          • StormsWarning
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 2190

            #6
            Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

            Originally posted by JHodges57
            Isn't there a setting on the PS that you can stop automatic updates?


            I've seen the one with the catcher taking all day to throw to first.
            Unplug your internet or just take the update, nothing can be done other wise.
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            • wizfan2
              Rookie
              • Aug 2004
              • 396

              #7
              Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

              You can pause them from > niotifications screen .👍🏾
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              • tinpanalley
                MVP
                • Apr 2006
                • 3401

                #8
                Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                Originally posted by Padgoi
                Case #2: same video, fast forward to the 1 hour and 3 minute mark...
                The more frequent occurrence of canned animations like this and the animation issue in the corner in RF are reasons I went back to The Show 16 on PS3. Smooth as silk. People need to see players sweating, blinking and blades of grass swaying in the breeze. Fundamentally, in my opinion, playing The Show since 2006, there is nothing the PS4 game does better than The Show 16 on PS3.

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                • jeffy777
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3320

                  #9
                  Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                  Do we know for certain these glitches were introduced in patches or were they in the original game? Looking at past years, we’ve always had fielding glitches and it’s the buggiest area of this game without a doubt, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

                  The patches have also fixed a few glitches, so I’d say the pros outweigh the cons, but I do feel your pain. I’m forced to use auto fielding because stuff like this drives me up the wall.

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                  • tuckermaine
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 922

                    #10
                    Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                    Originally posted by jeffy777
                    Do we know for certain these glitches were introduced in patches or were they in the original game? Looking at past years, we’ve always had fielding glitches and it’s the buggiest area of this game without a doubt, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

                    The patches have also fixed a few glitches, so I’d say the pros outweigh the cons, but I do feel your pain. I’m forced to use auto fielding because stuff like this drives me up the wall.
                    Your absolutely right in that we don’t know for sure if a patch is causing glitches ect.
                    But if you take note, as I do with gameplay directly after patch has dropped and notice a particular event or something that was happening before patch that is not since patch or something that is different that occurs since patch, then you take notice. Now I have not been very far into my franchise, since patch..so. One must give “games” a chance because more games more outcomes ect.
                    But I have noticed that baserunning aggressiveness was fixed in this years edition.
                    I’m a Cpu Cpu guy and my baserunning was spot on. baserunners were taking extra base forcing throws from outfield.
                    Since this last patch ...I have not seen this...may be my paranoia may be that I need to play more games ect.
                    But I’ll keep a note.

                    And keep hoping this patch did not skew gameplay, because out of box it was real sweet. I also realize this patch and it’s affect on the clean screen , type of pitch ect ..they fixed that...so patches are welcomed, but things just seem different after each one in other issues beside what the Devs say the patch is for.

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                    • kenp86
                      MVP
                      • May 2008
                      • 2979

                      #11
                      Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                      I had one that made me almost trash my controller. Playing as Colorado. Blackman hits a rope to left center. Its a clear double. Blackman starts walking into second base as the throw comes in and hes out... WTF. It was an automatic trot by Blackman. Nothing I couldve done to prevent it
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                      • tuckermaine
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 922

                        #12
                        Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                        Originally posted by kenp86
                        I had one that made me almost trash my controller. Playing as Colorado. Blackman hits a rope to left center. Its a clear double. Blackman starts walking into second base as the throw comes in and hes out... WTF. It was an automatic trot by Blackman. Nothing I couldve done to prevent it
                        Yep....I’ve seen that one post patch !!!!

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                        • mrsaito
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 743

                          #13
                          Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                          Originally posted by StormsWarning
                          Unplug your internet or just take the update, nothing can be done other wise.
                          I'm not 100% sure but I think that if you 'refuse' an update once on the notifications screen it will no longer be offered unless you pull it.

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                          • Lisac
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1818

                            #14
                            Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                            I had a new one last night
                            CPU runner on 1st
                            Line drive to my 1st baseman, bobbles it and than catches it in the air
                            CPU runner runs to 2b.
                            I have easy DP, tag 1st. Runner safe at 2nd 🤔

                            Also im an exclusive Offline Franchise Player
                            Before patch 1.05 NO blue Circle around Fielders (with Fielding assist on)
                            Now have blue circle, They removed it for Online Players with 1.07 but not Offline
                            Ive submitted 3 Bug requests and nothing has been done.
                            And OF catching Fly balls is still brutal

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                            • BigOscar
                              MVP
                              • May 2016
                              • 2971

                              #15
                              Re: I Really Just Don't Understand Why Patches Continue to Make the Game Worse

                              The newest patch has seemed to add the glitch where the catch indicator in the outfield is now about 10 feet away from where the ball is actually going. No idea why, but pretty terrible

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