Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

[Deadspace Saturn]

Diamond dynasty is a homeruns fest. Either I hit a ton of homeruns or my opponent hits a ton to win the game.

If you don't believe me do yourselves a favor and go into Diamond dynasty mode and check out the
Standings & stats history.

Go to standings & stats history,
then click standings, then click current season and scroll to the right and look at the discrepancy between the number of homeruns and doubles being hit. It's is soooooo fake. Every single Diamond Dynasty online user has hit wayyyy more homeruns than doubles.

I don't understand how many years it's gonna take for Sony San Diego to fix this problem.

I know I can fix it in my offline game with sliders but it takes the fun out of playing Diamond dynasty when every game is just a homerun derby.

In 2019 the MLB averaged 284 doubles and 226 homers in the season. The only two teams that hit more homeruns than doubles were the Yankees and Twins and I believe that is the first time it happened in MLB history.

[Ace2734]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

I don’t play DD only franchise but I actually agree with the sentiment nonetheless. I’ve tinkered with sliders (like solid hits and power in this case) but I mostly give up singles or homers. Rarely does the CPU seem to get a non-homer XBH.


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[Deadspace Saturn]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

I don’t play DD only franchise but I actually agree with the sentiment nonetheless. I’ve tinkered with sliders (like solid hits and power in this case) but I mostly give up singles or homers. Rarely does the CPU seem to get a non-homer XBH.


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In my franchise the computer has hit 57 Doubles and 45 Homeruns on me through 28 games. I'm playing on Dynamic Difficulty. About 25 out of the 28 games were on Hall of fame pitching the last three have been on All star. I leveled down to all-star because I was getting hammered.

The problem is mostly with us Users not being able to hit more Doubles than Homeruns. I've hit 61 homeruns and 39 doubles through 28 games. Funny that Ramone Russell says every year that they look at the stats and analytics of us Users to see what they should adjust gameplay wise. He's been saying the same thing for the last 3 to 4 years and we still have the same issue with getting way more Homeruns than Doubles.

I've been playing my franchise on Legend and Hall of fame batting through Dynamic Difficulty. I've been leveling up and down. I haven't edited any sliders because I wanted to see if the game some how leveled out with the Homeruns and Doubles but that obviously hasn't been the case.

In terms of adjusting sliders...

I think lowering power isn't gonna fix the problem. I think "Fielder Arm Strength Outfield" has to be lowered drastically. And baserunning and infielder throwing speed should be increased by the same exact amount.

For example:

Fielder Arm Strength Outfield: minus 3
Baserunner speed: plus 4
Fielder Arm Strength Infield: plus 4

This way you would still be able to do double plays at the same rate.

And the other thing I would adjust is:
Human Power: Minus 1
Human Solid Hits: Plus 2

[jeffy777]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Turning down Fielder Run Speed/Reaction makes all the difference in increasing the amount of doubles, as it always has in the past with this game (Armor knows what’s up). Sadly it’s not an option in DD, but it’s a requirement in Franchise unless you want the fielders to track down just about everything under the sun.

[canes21]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Turning down Fielder Run Speed/Raction makes all the difference in increasing the amount of doubles, as it always has in the past with this game (Armor knows what’s up). Sadly it’s not an option in DD, but it’s a requirement in Franchise unless you want the fielders to track down just about everything under the sun.

This is a good solution. 20 is my first game since 17 and I remember I. 17 I had fielder speed and reaction at 0 or 1. I've got both at 1 for my 20 sliders along with havi g lowered arm strength for both IF and OF. The default game has always had the fielders react too quickly and able to get to balls down the line or in the gaps too easily resulting in singles or outs where it would have been an XBH in real life.

[Deadspace Saturn]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Turning down Fielder Run Speed/Reaction makes all the difference in increasing the amount of doubles, as it always has in the past with this game (Armor knows what’s up). Sadly it’s not an option in DD, but it’s a requirement in Franchise unless you want the fielders to track down just about everything under the sun.

I tried this over 6 games and I haven't gotten the amount of doubles I thought I would. I lowered fielder speed and reaction down by 4. And increased baserunning speed by 4. Through 6 games I've only gotten 4 doubles. This is on legend difficulty. The CPU doesn't have the too few doubles problem. It's only a user problem.

Sony San Diego needs to patch this

[canes21]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

I tried this over 6 games and I haven't gotten the amount of doubles I thought I would. I lowered fielder speed and reaction down by 4. And increased baserunning speed by 4. Through 6 games I've only gotten 4 doubles. This is on legend difficulty. The CPU doesn't have the too few doubles problem. It's only a user problem.

Sony San Diego needs to patch this

I see you're on Legend. Are you using directional or zone hitting? What are your sliders for all of the Human hitting ones? I'd knock power down to at least 4 out of 10. My set has it at 3 at this point. I'd also look into potentially lowering solid hits. My set has it at 2 or 3. Seems opposite of what you'd want, but it actually increases hit variety and allows for more balls that are hit hard, but without HR trajectories which equals more XBH.

[bkrich83]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Haven't adjusted any fielder sliders, however I have lowered timing, power and solid hits for both myself and the CPU by a few notches. Seeing plenty of doubles and HR's are no longer out of control.

In my franchise with the Angels in early May, I'm 4th in the MLB in doubles, and 12th in MLB in Home Runs.

This is on HOF Zone hitting and HOF Classic Pitching.

[Deadspace Saturn]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

@Canes21 @bkrich83

I play with Zone hitting on Legend vs cpu

Interesting... I have my power down by 1 and my solid hits up by 3 clicks. I will lower it by two clicks and see if that works. Thanks for the suggestion. I will let you guys know my results.

They need to patch the online though so that there are more doubles.

[bkrich83]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

@Canes21 @bkrich83

Interesting... I have my power down by 1 and my solid hits up by 3 clicks. I will lower it by two clicks and see if that works. Thanks for the suggestion. I will let you guys know my results.

They need to patch the online though so that there are more doubles.

Yeah unfortunately for online there's not much you can do.

If I log in later, I'll check my slider settings and let you know what I have them set at if you'd like.

[Deadspace Saturn]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Yeah unfortunately for online there's not much you can do.

If I log in later, I'll check my slider settings and let you know what I have them set at if you'd like.

Yeah that would be cool. Can you show me a picture of your doubles and homeruns stats in your franchise?

[canes21]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

@Canes21 @bkrich83

I play with Zone hitting on Legend vs cpu

Interesting... I have my power down by 1 and my solid hits up by 3 clicks. I will lower it by two clicks and see if that works. Thanks for the suggestion. I will let you guys know my results.

They need to patch the online though so that there are more doubles.

Online, don't expect it to ever play like real baseball. For tuning the sliders, I'd be real interested to see how lowering it works for using Zone. To me, with directional, I view the contact slider as how often the PCI gets on the ball resulting in contact. Power is straight forward. Solid hits is how often it squares the ball up with the inner circle that sends the ball flying. By lowering that on directional you start to see a large variety of contact types from barely missing the sweet spot and hitting a gap shot instead of sending it over the fence to seeing balls that barely grab any barrel and result in bloopers or swinging bunts.



For zone, though, maybe it makes the smaller circle even smaller or makes the RNG favor towards other hit types other than HRs more? Either way, I'm interested to see if lowering it for you on zone also results on what it's done for me on directional.

[bkrich83]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Yeah that would be cool. Can you show me a picture of your doubles and homeruns stats in your franchise?

Sure. Here is what I have through I think 40 games in my Angels franchise. These are Doubles, HR's and HR's allowed. Just realized I've hit 54 Home Runs and Given up 54 home runs. Funny.

I currently have for Sliders
Hum Contact: 5
Human Power: 4
Human Timing: 3
Human Foul Ball: 2
Human Solid Hits: 4

CPU Contact: 5
CPU Power: 4
CPU Timing:2
CPU Foul: 1
CPU Solid Hits: 4

I also increased CP Pitcher Control and CPU Pitcher Consistency to 6 to get fewer mistake/meatball pitchers resulting in a higher than I wanted Home Run rate.

I uploaded my sliders to the vault. My PSN name is the same as my screen name here.

[Deadspace Saturn]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Online, don't expect it to ever play like real baseball. For tuning the sliders, I'd be real interested to see how lowering it works for using Zone. To me, with directional, I view the contact slider as how often the PCI gets on the ball resulting in contact. Power is straight forward. Solid hits is how often it squares the ball up with the inner circle that sends the ball flying. By lowering that on directional you start to see a large variety of contact types from barely missing the sweet spot and hitting a gap shot instead of sending it over the fence to seeing balls that barely grab any barrel and result in bloopers or swinging bunts.

For zone, though, maybe it makes the smaller circle even smaller or makes the RNG favor towards other hit types other than HRs more? Either way, I'm interested to see if lowering it for you on zone also results on what it's done for me on directional.

Yeah I don't expect online to play perfectly real seeing as there are so many different skill levels. But I would still like to see more doubles online than homeruns. There is a higher chance of me hitting 4 or 5 homeruns in a game than hitting 4 or 5 doubles and that shouldnt be the case. I don't care if I see 4 homeruns in a game every once and a while but I want to see doubles wayyyy more often than they are happening.

That's good to know(About directional hitting) I am playing a 162 game season. I am in game 42 of my season. I will test the solid hits slider down 2 from the default way it comes. Will test it over 10 games to see if I get more doubles than homers.

[bkrich83]

Re: Huge Problem: Too many homeruns and too little Doubles

Sure. Here is what I have through I think 40 games in my Angels franchise. These are Doubles, HR's and HR's allowed. Just realized I've hit 54 Home Runs and Given up 54 home runs. Funny.

I currently have for Sliders
Hum Contact: 5
Human Power: 4
Human Timing: 3
Human Foul Ball: 2
Human Solid Hits: 4

CPU Contact: 5
CPU Power: 4
CPU Timing:2
CPU Foul: 1
CPU Solid Hits: 4

I also increased CP Pitcher Control and CPU Pitcher Consistency to 6 to get fewer mistake/meatball pitchers resulting in a higher than I wanted Home Run rate.

I uploaded my sliders to the vault. My PSN name is the same as my screen name here.

Just to add on to some details above.

At the home run rate I have right now, I would finish the season with about 243 home runs, which would rank 11th in major league baseball in the 2019 season.

Also on pace for 328 doubles which would rank 2nd in major league baseball in 2019.