MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) - Part Two

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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33715

    #1

    MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) - Part Two



    Moving on from part one where we covered the "most common" issues currently hindering MLB The...

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  • Therebelyell626
    MVP
    • Mar 2018
    • 2887

    #2
    I can confirm that the defender not reaching for the ball happens offline as well. I am strictly offline franchise and there are literally 1-2 instances every game where my fielder will not reach for the ball on medium difficulty grounders or line drives 

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    • JoseJoseph9119
      Rookie
      • Mar 2018
      • 179

      #3
      Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

      The point about players not leaving the bag during a rundown because they won't leave the base uncovered is an even worse problem on short pop ups into the OF, especially ones that should be caught by the 3B. He will completely ignore the ball to run over to the bag, sometimes a longer distance than getting to the ball itself.

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      • RunN1st
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 2906

        #4
        My brother-in-law asked me last night if he should buy it, I told him to hold off until we see resolution to these issues. Having said that, I’m playing ‘20 on a non-patched PS4 that’s not connected to the internet and haven’t seen fielding issue. It’s not perfect but it’s a whole lot better than the patched version.
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        • ChaseB
          #BringBackFaceuary
          • Oct 2003
          • 9844

          #5
          Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
          I can confirm that the defender not reaching for the ball happens offline as well. I am strictly offline franchise and there are literally 1-2 instances every game where my fielder will not reach for the ball on medium difficulty grounders or line drives*
          Yeah the line drives is shown at various points, thanks for the info about the grounders as well.

          Originally posted by JoseJoseph9119
          The point about players not leaving the bag during a rundown because they won't leave the base uncovered is an even worse problem on short pop ups into the OF, especially ones that should be caught by the 3B. He will completely ignore the ball to run over to the bag, sometimes a longer distance than getting to the ball itself.
          Good to know, and at least it fits in with the logic I was going with there.

          Originally posted by RunN1st
          My brother-in-law asked me last night if he should buy it, I told him to hold off until we see resolution to these issues. Having said that, I’m playing ‘20 on a non-patched PS4 that’s not connected to the internet and haven’t seen fielding issue. It’s not perfect but it’s a whole lot better than the patched version.
          Yeah I think that's a good path to take on this one.
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          • Deadspace Saturn
            Rookie
            • Apr 2019
            • 69

            #6
            Infielder not reaching for the ball is definitely an offline issue as well. It has happened to me over 10 times already. It's sooooo annoying

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            • tabarnes19_SDS
              Game Designer
              • Feb 2003
              • 3084

              #7
              Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

              Yes groundballs and running right by them is awful offline. I still think there is an issue with animations triggering which force you into the non catch animation.

              Also there are times you get to the catch indicator and ball hits player in head. I am at the end.of June in my franchise and have the worst fielding percentage in baseball because of it.

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              • Jeffrey Smith
                MVP
                • Apr 2014
                • 1925

                #8
                Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                I use auto fielding and do not see many of these issues but this is very well written and thought out. Hopefully SDS can continue to improve fielding, especially for manual fielders.


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                • ChaseB
                  #BringBackFaceuary
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9844

                  #9
                  Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                  Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
                  I use auto fielding and do not see many of these issues but this is very well written and thought out. Hopefully SDS can continue to improve fielding, especially for manual fielders.


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                  Yeah that it mostly is not happening with auto-fielding makes it seem like it's just some sort of routing issue mixed with the game not liking when you take a new path than the expected one the AI would take I guess.
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                  • JoseJoseph9119
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 179

                    #10
                    Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                    Originally posted by ChaseB
                    Yeah that it mostly is not happening with auto-fielding makes it seem like it's just some sort of routing issue mixed with the game not liking when you take a new path than the expected one the AI would take I guess.
                    That pathway is very rigid and I think most of these issues have been caused by some minor deviation. The few times this has happened egregiously for me were when I was trying to circle the spot to line up for a throw. I'm sure it's happened in a glitchy way as well, but I think the code is more 'malfunctioning' than 'broken'

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                    • milkmanbonzai
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 138

                      #11
                      I luckily haven't encountered anything problematic in terms of infield play and wall collision, but my goodness, the issues with catching bloopers and fly balls got me to do something I havent done in a long time, which was turn the fielding to auto. Which I don't like to, I traditionally like playing defense, but the game's constant inability to trigger and lock on balls in manual even when the fielder is in the zone is just maddening.

                      Im sure there's game/physics engine and attribute algorithms going on under the hood, but there's nothing wrong with doing it like virtually every baseball game in existence, where if I get to the spot, the fielder will make a play on it. If you want to dice-roll some stuff to account for bad fielders, and I appreciate the different jumps including poor ones by outfielders, to get more realistic outcomes, that's one thing. But you can't have fielders having balls passively doinking off their heads like it's the first game of a "Major League" movie. 

                      Im still digging MLB The Show 20 a lot, but I wish I didn't have to turn fielding to automatic in order to maximize my fun.

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                      • tessl
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5679

                        #12
                        I didn't watch every video but it appears to be user controlled issues.  I am seeing none of this in manage mode.  

                        You may be blaming the developers for your own human error.

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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22909

                          #13
                          Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          I didn't watch every video but it appears to be user controlled issues.* I am seeing none of this in manage mode.**

                          You may be blaming the developers for your own human error.
                          You should probably watch the videos before you post something like this then. The videos here and in the other thread about fielding issues clearly show there is an issue with the game and not the users when you use manual fielding.
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                          • KnightTemplar
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 3282

                            #14
                            Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                            Originally posted by tessl
                            I didn't watch every video but it appears to be user controlled issues.* I am seeing none of this in manage mode.**

                            You may be blaming the developers for your own human error.
                            I play MOM and we don’t control any of the fielding, so, of course we aren’t going to see any problems. Appears to be the lack of a user friendly system, and looks frustrating. This one should be priority one and nothing else.

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                            • Wbcfan
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 443

                              #15
                              Everytime they touch this game, they screw up even more.  

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