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  • LastActionHero
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 2453

    #1

    Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

    So hitting a ball in the gap, rounding second and immediately releasing R1 after passing second base and selecting the slide he just runs full speed past 3rd base to home and gets tagged out losing the game [emoji2373]

    Seriously [emoji2959]
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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52786

    #2
    Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

    What mode?

    Because I'm not understanding why you're "releasing R1" after passing second base????
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    • Fuimus Troes
      Rookie
      • Sep 2012
      • 266

      #3
      Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

      Originally posted by LastActionHero
      So hitting a ball in the gap, rounding second and immediately releasing R1 after passing second base and selecting the slide he just runs full speed past 3rd base to home and gets tagged out losing the game [emoji2373]

      Seriously [emoji2959]
      I have never had this problem. I use the default assisted baserunning, and the only problem I have is the baserunner freezing on a line drive (smart) but then never unfreezing (i.e., manual input required) if it falls for a hit.

      I think you are doing something wrong, honestly. I use a combination of the R1/R2 buttons and stick/button to highlight a runner and queue him to a base. Have you tried that? It's not hard and works.

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      • mrsaito
        Pro
        • Nov 2009
        • 743

        #4
        Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

        Same here, I use default assisted as well. The last couple of years SDS has shown some improvement too.

        For example with a runner on second the batter hits a single and I hit L1 which is supposed to 'advance all' baserunners. Well the game is smart enough to just send the runner from second home without advancing the batter to a sure out at second.

        I will admit that it took me a while to master tagging up from third on flyballs. One day I went into practice mode and figured it out.

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        • franch1se
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 9060

          #5
          Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

          happens to me all the time. Runners always slide into third base. Lost so many runs by it.

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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #6
            Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

            There is one issue I've had with the baserunning for several years that hasn't been fixed. If I'm holding the L1 after rounding first and then release it at just the wrong time, the game locks the runner into a "run to 3rd" command when he should be stopping at 2nd.

            Here's the thing happening in real time - watch how the baserunning display momentarily flashes "3rd" when I release the advance all button (5th second of the video - interestingly enough that moment is the auto-picked thumbnail for the video ):

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mWCrY0yqO0g" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            That wasn't me - it only happened because I let off the Advance button and intended to stop at 2nd. This is a case where the full bug didn't trigger - just that visual one on the baserunning display. But when it does happen, that "3rd" will stay on the runner - and he won't stop going until he reaches third, which will usually get you caught in a rundown if you don't notice it.

            And yes, I did say "if you don't notice it" because there's a way to keep this from happening every time that "3rd" sticks. I'm used to watching the baserunning display like a hawk now to make sure my runners are doing what they're supposed to, and when I do notice one of these bugs happen I have a short time to correct it myself before the runner reaches base. To make him stop at second I just do the "run to 2nd" command (highlight runner on L-stick, press Triangle) and he will stop there, even if the bug occurred.

            I personally haven't had this happen anywhere other than between first and second, but it might be the cause of people running through third without stopping too. It's not an excuse for the bug existing (and since this is legacy it really needs to be fixed), but I know this is the way to beat it.

            One more thing - this is a bug that only shows itself because I can show the gameplay live as it happens - the indicator of it doesn't show up on replay. Please use the PS4's passive recording feature to report bugs like this - I promise it will be easier to get your point across to others.
            Last edited by bcruise; 05-22-2020, 12:32 PM.

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            • markor
              Rookie
              • Dec 2011
              • 135

              #7
              Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

              Is there an efficient way to advance multiple runners 2 or more bases without having to select each one separately? Usually bases loaded or runners on 1st and 2nd with ball hit in the gap and runners stopped to see if it drops gives me trouble to get everybody to advance as much as I want them to.

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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #8
                Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                Originally posted by markor
                Is there an efficient way to advance multiple runners 2 or more bases without having to select each one separately? Usually bases loaded or runners on 1st and 2nd with ball hit in the gap and runners stopped to see if it drops gives me trouble to get everybody to advance as much as I want them to.
                On gap balls that I know a fielder is not going to be able to cut off, I just hold L1 at least until after the batter rounds first. Since the other runners are leading off they will reach their next bases before that time, which means everyone will advance at least two bases. After that I individually control runners once I see where the ball is going (at that point there are only 2 to manage at most - batter and runner who started on 1st), or just keep holding L1 if it looks like a triple is possible.

                That's about the simplest way I know of to handle it.
                Last edited by bcruise; 05-22-2020, 12:49 PM.

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                • JHodges57
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 507

                  #9
                  Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                  The stupid baserunning happens even in MoM mode where the AI controls all of that. It happens way too often also.

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                  • reyes the roof
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11526

                    #10
                    Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    On gap balls that I know a fielder is not going to be able to cut off, I just hold L1 at least until after the batter rounds first. Since the other runners are leading off they will reach their next bases before that time, which means everyone will advance at least two bases. After that I individually control runners once I see where the ball is going (at that point there are only 2 to manage at most - batter and runner who started on 1st), or just keep holding L1 if it looks like a triple is possible.

                    That's about the simplest way I know of to handle it.
                    Oh man I’ve been doing it wrong. I thought you just tapped r1 one time for each base you want your guys to advance. No wonder my guys never advance

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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #11
                      Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                      Originally posted by reyes the roof
                      Oh man I’ve been doing it wrong. I thought you just tapped r1 one time for each base you want your guys to advance. No wonder my guys never advance
                      Yeah, the fact that it's a hold and not a press/release gives you a lot of flexibility. You can use it in the typical "base hit scores a runner from 2nd" situation too using the same principle. Since the runner leads off, he hits 3rd before the batter reaches first. So once you're sure you can score you hold down L1 long enough for the runner to round third, but then release before the batter reaches first. Runner gets green light and scores, batter stops at first. Timing is pretty tight but it works great once you get the hang of it. Since it's a lot easier and quicker than the "highlight runner, press X to go home" process, you get a proper roundoff of third a lot easier. Runner speeds don't usually come into play with it either because of the leadoffs.
                      Last edited by bcruise; 05-22-2020, 01:50 PM.

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                      • KnightTemplar
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 3282

                        #12
                        Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                        Originally posted by JHodges57
                        The stupid baserunning happens even in MoM mode where the AI controls all of that. It happens way too often also.
                        I’m not seeing that in MOM. Interesting.

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                        • doubledeuceR6
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1948

                          #13
                          Re: Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                          I've had this happen in the event a few times over the weekend but that's the only mode I've experienced it in.
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                          • LastActionHero
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2453

                            #14
                            Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                            So there must be some sort of bug that lets this happen on rare occasions right? I mean I’ve been playing this game since ‘08 so I know how the baserunning is supposed to work.

                            I do believe that when this happens it’s mostly during online games. It can’t be the small input lag window online because like I said I immediately released L1 after my runner passed second base. I would think that the half way point is exactly between the bases. So if you let L1 go in the first half it stops at the upcoming base and if you release it after the halfway point (or when you hold it) it runs further.

                            If someone could elaborate it would be great.
                            Last edited by LastActionHero; 05-22-2020, 04:59 PM.
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                            • LastActionHero
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2453

                              #15
                              Will baserunning ever work properly in this game?!

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              What mode?

                              Because I'm not understanding why you're "releasing R1" after passing second base????

                              It was in ranked season and I meant releasing L1 [emoji30]
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