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  • SouthernWarrior
    Banned
    • Apr 2020
    • 422

    #1

    Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

    I'm playing on HOF and man is it difficult to get SP's longer than 6 at the most.

    First off, the first inning or two is the most difficult to get the pitcher in rhythm. On average I might have a first inning going 16-20 pitches and then if they don't give up any runs they gain confidence.

    Second, when the stamina meter starts to hit yellow they get REALLY erratic and start throwing beachballs to the hitter. This usually happens in the late 5th or early 6th (85+ pitches).

    There's also usually at least an at bat or two per game where the hitter goes through a 8+ pitch at bat.

    I find myself constantly only using SP's for 5 innings (6 if they're pitching incredible) and using RP's for the other innings. This is w a rotation of all 85+ overall pitchers

    do people have tips on how to have SP's last longer?
    Last edited by SouthernWarrior; 05-23-2020, 05:32 AM.
  • garry1221
    Rookie
    • Jul 2017
    • 152

    #2
    Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

    Originally posted by SouthernWarrior
    I'm playing on HOF and man is it difficult to get SP's longer than 6 at the most.

    First off, the first inning or two is the most difficult to get the pitcher in rhythm. On average I might have a first inning going 16-20 pitches and then if they don't give up any runs they gain confidence.

    Second, when the stamina meter starts to hit yellow they get REALLY erratic and start throwing beachballs to the hitter. This usually happens in the late 5th or early 6th (85+ pitches).

    There's also usually at least an at bat or two per game where the hitter goes through a 8+ pitch at bat.

    do people have tips on how to have SP's last longer?
    First things first. What are your pitcher stamina sliders set at?

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    • SouthernWarrior
      Banned
      • Apr 2020
      • 422

      #3
      Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

      Originally posted by garry1221
      First things first. What are your pitcher stamina sliders set at?

      whatever normal is, i haven't adjusted any sliders

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      • BleacherCreature
        MVP
        • Apr 2007
        • 3160

        #4
        Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

        6 innings for a starter is pretty normal in baseball now.


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        • sharkdaballer
          Rookie
          • Aug 2019
          • 159

          #5
          Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

          5.2 IP was league average last year for starters

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          • reyes the roof
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 11526

            #6
            Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

            I feel like stamina needs to be re-thought in this game, starting pitchers shouldn’t struggle to throw 100 pitches. It’s like they look at two guys and see pitcher A averages 6.1 innings per start IRL and pitcher B averages 5.1 per start, so pitcher A must have better stamina in reality pitcher is is just more efficient with his pitches or a better overall pitcher. It frustrates me when I have a starter tired after 70 pitches

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            • garry1221
              Rookie
              • Jul 2017
              • 152

              #7
              Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

              Originally posted by SouthernWarrior
              whatever normal is, i haven't adjusted any sliders
              Reading through the edited OP.
              If you're throwing 85+ pitches per start, I'd say that's about on par. In my experience, when the STA bar hits yellow they're at or past their STA (effective pitch count). Loss of command is expected in that case. As far as the 8+ pitch at bat goes you just need to expand the zone more, then come back in quicker. If he fouls 2 or 3 off, make better adjustments or don't listen to your catcher.

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              • lDyNoMiTel
                Rookie
                • Apr 2013
                • 48

                #8
                Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                How much pitch energy are you using? If you use less energy per pitch your stamina will not drain as much. Only use high energy for more tense pitch situations.

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                • Rmiok222
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 3129

                  #9
                  Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                  I get what these guys above me are saying about 6 innings being max last year IRL.

                  That being said if I want my starter to throw 100 pitches I want him to be physically capable of doing that in the game. Which is why I set user and cpu starter stamina at 8. I have elite guys gassing out at 100 pitches. Which is very normal.

                  Francona, the Indians manager would religiosity let his starters go WELL past 100 pitches. Bauer, kluber would have games where they would pitch 120+ pitches. I atleast want that to be possible on the game. Francona has a large leash. I use Cleveland in franchise. That’s why I use 8 stamina.


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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52728

                    #10
                    Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                    I personally pay little attention to stamina and rely on confidence and pitcher effectiveness.

                    Yes pitchers miss more marks when tired but so long as confidence is strong they can still pitch very effectively.



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                    • sharkdaballer
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2019
                      • 159

                      #11
                      Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                      Originally posted by Rmiok222
                      I get what these guys above me are saying about 6 innings being max last year IRL.

                      That being said if I want my starter to throw 100 pitches I want him to be physically capable of doing that in the game. Which is why I set user and cpu starter stamina at 8. I have elite guys gassing out at 100 pitches. Which is very normal.

                      Francona, the Indians manager would religiosity let his starters go WELL past 100 pitches. Bauer, kluber would have games where they would pitch 120+ pitches. I atleast want that to be possible on the game. Francona has a large leash. I use Cleveland in franchise. That’s why I use 8 stamina.


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                      I wish managers had more of an impact, like on hook/stamina, stealing, and overall pitching and hitting strategies.

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                      • TonyMoraco15
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 180

                        #12
                        Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                        Originally posted by SouthernWarrior
                        I'm playing on HOF and man is it difficult to get SP's longer than 6 at the most.

                        First off, the first inning or two is the most difficult to get the pitcher in rhythm. On average I might have a first inning going 16-20 pitches and then if they don't give up any runs they gain confidence.

                        Second, when the stamina meter starts to hit yellow they get REALLY erratic and start throwing beachballs to the hitter. This usually happens in the late 5th or early 6th (85+ pitches).

                        There's also usually at least an at bat or two per game where the hitter goes through a 8+ pitch at bat.

                        I find myself constantly only using SP's for 5 innings (6 if they're pitching incredible) and using RP's for the other innings. This is w a rotation of all 85+ overall pitchers

                        do people have tips on how to have SP's last longer?

                        I play on “All Star Plus” with classic pitching, my sliders are set 5 for SP 2 for RP.

                        I have no issues with going past 6IP with my starter if he’s pitching well and has an attribute of 75+ for stamina (this is important to know in order to know how long can they pitch per outing)

                        One thing I like to do is throw a lot of strikes in the first two innings, pitch to contact. Unless you are getting hammered, only then you change the strategy.

                        One other thing to keep in mind is that if you leave your starting pitchers in the game until they are drained out every time, they won’t always be 100 % next time around in the rotation.

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                        • BleacherCreature
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3160

                          #13
                          Re: Having pitchers pitch longer than 6 innings?

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          I personally pay little attention to stamina and rely on confidence and pitcher effectiveness.

                          Yes pitchers miss more marks when tired but so long as confidence is strong they can still pitch very effectively.



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                          I’ve been shutout by the CPU and their starter had zero energy for the 8th and 9th innings, but his confidence was maxed so he was still able to pitch effectively.


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