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  • Jeffrey Smith
    MVP
    • Apr 2014
    • 1925

    #1

    2021 player ratings?

    Just curious what everyone thinks about player ratings for 2021. How much will opt outs affect player ratings? How much will a 60 game season affect player ratings?

    We know SDS uses a 3 year average to set ratings but how much will this year affect those ratings?
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  • Jeffrey Smith
    MVP
    • Apr 2014
    • 1925

    #2
    Re: 2021 player ratings?

    LOL I just realized I used the word ratings 5 times in a paragraph.

    Hahahahaha
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    • TheWarmWind
      MVP
      • Apr 2015
      • 2620

      #3
      Re: 2021 player ratings?

      SDS says they use a 3 year sample size to determine ratings.

      I'm guessing 2021 will be weighted under other years for player attributes.

      I'll tell you one thing though, it's going to negatively impact ratings accuracy for the next three years, regardless of how they weigh it. Weighing it less just reduced that impact.

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      • bacon96
        Bacon's Fictional Roster
        • Feb 2013
        • 1963

        #4
        Re: 2021 player ratings?

        My guess is it's more based on plate appearances than seasons so this season will be about 1/3 as valuable as a normal season.
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        • TheWarmWind
          MVP
          • Apr 2015
          • 2620

          #5
          Re: 2021 player ratings?

          Originally posted by bacon96
          My guess is it's more based on plate appearances than seasons so this season will be about 1/3 as valuable as a normal season.
          The issue more stems from 2020 rookies and break out players. Otherwise yes, this.

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #6
            Re: 2021 player ratings?

            I hope not to see any drastic rating changes in ratings for any attribute ratings based on the 2020 tournament (I still refuse to call it a season). for the most part I won't mind seeing those attribute ratings in 21 be really similar to 20. maybe they should base 2021 ratings something like 50% 2019, 25% 2020 & 25% 2018. hopefully when they start doing ratings updates in 21, they'll stay on top of those ratings changes early and often. I'm talking about player attribute ratings, if I didn't already mention.

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            • JTommy67
              Pro
              • Jul 2012
              • 598

              #7
              Re: 2021 player ratings?

              Given that they use three-year weighting, and the metrics they use are rate stats, any differences are not likely to be that noticeable.

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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #8
                Re: 2021 player ratings?

                the first player I'll look to in 21 to get an indication of what to think will be J.D. Martinez
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                • JHodges57
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 507

                  #9
                  Re: 2021 player ratings?

                  I guess for players who opted out this year it'll be the same as for players who miss an entire season due to injuries. Basically no difference than their previous ratings.

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                  • TripleCrown
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1238

                    #10
                    Re: 2021 player ratings?

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    I hope not to see any drastic rating changes in ratings for any attribute ratings based on the 2020 tournament (I still refuse to call it a season). for the most part I won't mind seeing those attribute ratings in 21 be really similar to 20. maybe they should base 2021 ratings something like 50% 2019, 25% 2020 & 25% 2018. hopefully when they start doing ratings updates in 21, they'll stay on top of those ratings changes early and often. I'm talking about player attribute ratings, if I didn't already mention.

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                    ratings.
                    Tried following simulations with Chris Davis :

                    50% 2019, 25% 2020 & 25% 2018
                    34% 2019, 33% 2020 & 33% 2018
                    10% 2019, 10% 2020 & 80% 2018
                    100% 2019, 0% 2020 & 0% 2018
                    0% 2019, 100% 2020 & 0% 2018
                    0% 2019, 0% 2020 & 100% 2018

                    case closed, you can leave his ratings as is !!

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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #11
                      Re: 2021 player ratings?

                      Originally posted by TripleCrown
                      Tried following simulations with Chris Davis :

                      50% 2019, 25% 2020 & 25% 2018
                      34% 2019, 33% 2020 & 33% 2018
                      10% 2019, 10% 2020 & 80% 2018
                      100% 2019, 0% 2020 & 0% 2018
                      0% 2019, 100% 2020 & 0% 2018
                      0% 2019, 0% 2020 & 100% 2018


                      case closed, you can leave his ratings as is !!
                      lol


                      but Davis needs his contract numbers reworked, not his attribute numbers
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                      • TripleCrown
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1238

                        #12
                        Re: 2021 player ratings?

                        Originally posted by Caulfield
                        lol


                        but Davis needs his contract numbers reworked, not his attribute numbers
                        Agree. Think the guy would benefit from some fresh air but at 23M$ he's difficult to move !

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                        • lemarflacco
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1001

                          #13
                          Re: 2021 player ratings?

                          Would they just use something close to their end of year ratings? I mean , do the "out the box" ratings matter that much since they update them weekly?

                          I think the "out of box" ratings may matter for Madden more because they do not seem to move people up more than a couple points per week but MLB significantly upgrades and downgrades people weekly.

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