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  • TheWarmWind
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 2620

    #16
    Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

    Originally posted by Cod
    The type of CPU and GPU doesn't matter. It's the architecture that matters. The new consoles both use a x86 microarchitecture. This is why PS3 development was so hard, as it utilized Cell Broadband Engine Architecture (CEBA). All the development is done on PC using console-specific SDKs (software development kits).

    When systems are using the architecture, the porting of games becomes somewhat easier. This is why Microsoft has made more and more games available across the Xbox Family (console, PC, etc.). The Switch uses the Nvidia Tegra architecture, which is completely different. So that's a whole other situation.

    MLB14 is correct. All the engines (custom, generic, etc.) used in game development utilize some or all of the low-level graphics APIs. This is the first generation that supports DirectX specific ray tracing via the AMD RDNA.2 architecture. Vulkan ray tracing is not supported on either console at this time.

    Source: Embedded Software Engineer in my day life
    I mean, yeah, you're 100% correct, but that info isn't so easy to digest for the uninitiated. I personally do appreciate it though.

    I remember there was an entire class in my curriculum dedicated to "How to talk to technically illiterate people". Mind you I was on the networking path. No real reason for an Embedded Software Engineer to take that class.

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5683

      #17
      Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
      While there are still significant differences between the PS4 and the PS5, I feel it's worth pointing out that those differences are nowhere near the differences between the PS3 and the PS4.

      The PS3 was a totally unique piece of hardware powered by a particularly experimental processor with its own architecture, OS, etc.

      The PS4 was an AMD processor with a Radeon GPU and a Linux based OS.

      The PS5 is an AMD processor with a Radeon GPU and a Linux based OS.

      Barring some software difference the general public doesn't know about, in theory any game developed for the PS5 should still be compatible with the PS4.

      Note: compatible does not mean playable. Hardware limitations still apply.

      So if there were any base engine upgrades that required the new hardware, then yes significant time would be needed to program the PS4 version. However, it could be as simple as changing a few numbers in the code and setting a few graphical features to off.

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      I wonder if Sony restricts them from releasing a ps4 version prior to the ps5.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52723

        #18
        Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

        Originally posted by tessl
        I wonder if Sony restricts them from releasing a ps4 version prior to the ps5.
        I would be surprised if they did considering they released the PS3 version of MLB '14 before the PS4 version.
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        • JHodges57
          Pro
          • Mar 2019
          • 507

          #19
          Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

          They shouldn't be in any rush to release PS5 version anyway since it's been mostly bots buying them up.

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          • LastActionHero
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 2453

            #20
            Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

            Originally posted by JHodges57
            They shouldn't be in any rush to release PS5 version anyway since it's been mostly bots buying them up.

            Yeah to sell them off for a higher price so those consoles eventually did end up at someone’s home...
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            • ninertravel
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 4833

              #21
              Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

              Originally posted by smokines3
              I would be very disappointed if that were the case. I'm sure the game spreading to other platforms is also taking up resources that should be dedicated to day one Playstation loyalists IMHO.
              Your right look at cyberpunk got delayed multiple times because of different versions then when it came out it wasn’t ready for last gen. If the focus was only on ps5 and pc the game Woukd have been been ready launch date November for ps5 without a million. Bugs

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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #22
                Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                Also we don’t even know the 2021 season

                We don’t know the roster active number
                We don’t know the DH rule
                We don’t know the amount of playoff teams
                We don’t even know the schedule of it’s locked I.

                I have no idea how the devs can handle this because they would have to make a choice now on what rules will be in for this year. They could do 2020 rules with the crappy 60 game season by we had, are they might just go back to 2019 rules in the game

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52723

                  #23
                  I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                  Originally posted by ninertravel
                  Also we don’t even know the 2021 season



                  We don’t know the roster active number

                  We don’t know the DH rule

                  We don’t know the amount of playoff teams

                  We don’t even know the schedule of it’s locked I.



                  I have no idea how the devs can handle this because they would have to make a choice now on what rules will be in for this year. They could do 2020 rules with the crappy 60 game season by we had, are they might just go back to 2019 rules in the game


                  My guess is they will keep the rules as they were in 2020 because those would be the rules for 2021 had the pandemic not happened.

                  26 man rosters
                  10 playoff teams
                  DH AL only (but optional as it’s been for years)
                  2021 schedule as put out by the MLB




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                  Last edited by countryboy; 01-10-2021, 08:36 AM.
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                  • tessl
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5683

                    #24
                    Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                    Originally posted by ninertravel
                    Also we don’t even know the 2021 season

                    We don’t know the roster active number
                    We don’t know the DH rule
                    We don’t know the amount of playoff teams
                    We don’t even know the schedule of it’s locked I.

                    I have no idea how the devs can handle this because they would have to make a choice now on what rules will be in for this year. They could do 2020 rules with the crappy 60 game season by we had, are they might just go back to 2019 rules in the game
                    If they go back to 2019 rules that would be the ideal choice. I want 162 with the option of turning off the DH in franchise.

                    Their attributes model will have to be modified to include 2020 stats. I believe their previous model was based upon the last 3 seasons with the most recent season weighing at 50%. Not sure they will want to weigh 2020 with only 60 games at 50% of attributes.

                    I've bought the Show every year because it's the only game with manage mode and great graphics and gameply. I hate the DH. The only thing that would stop me from buying a new version would be to get rid of the DH like MLB has done.

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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #25
                      Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                      the lack of information could be that there isn't anything ''new'' for 21.

                      as for the cover, that's usually the first thing announced and if they don't already have a cover player, maybe the cover is going to be totally different from all other years by having a cover w/o a particular player and have some sort of cover art.
                      personally, I've always hated sports games choosing 1 team's player to represent all the other teams on the cover. I'd rather the cover be some unique piece of artwork created specifically for that year. not that the cover really matters, it's what's on the inside that counts. just one of the ''little things'' I'd like to be different.

                      also for info, if something is being removed, past history tells us we won't get any news on that till after release
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                      • Bullit
                        Bacon is Better
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5004

                        #26
                        Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                        Originally posted by ninertravel
                        Also we don’t even know the 2021 season

                        We don’t know the roster active number
                        We don’t know the DH rule
                        We don’t know the amount of playoff teams
                        We don’t even know the schedule of it’s locked I.

                        I have no idea how the devs can handle this because they would have to make a choice now on what rules will be in for this year. They could do 2020 rules with the crappy 60 game season by we had, are they might just go back to 2019 rules in the game

                        Also, to add to this, didnt the Bargaining agreement end last year? They are or were also talking about getting rid of 40+ MILB teams and completely restructuring the system. Honestly at this point they may not even know what they can and can't put in the game. The future of MLB is very much in doubt right now. I don't think anybody has a clue what form it will take this year. Including Sony and MLB itself. The longer we go without hearing anything the more I believe we will see little to no change in the game this year. Honestly if we even see a "new" game at all.
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52723

                          #27
                          Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                          Originally posted by Bullit
                          Also, to add to this, didnt the Bargaining agreement end last year? They are or were also talking about getting rid of 40+ MILB teams and completely restructuring the system. Honestly at this point they may not even know what they can and can't put in the game. The future of MLB is very much in doubt right now. I don't think anybody has a clue what form it will take this year. Including Sony and MLB itself. The longer we go without hearing anything the more I believe we will see little to no change in the game this year. Honestly if we even see a "new" game at all.


                          The bargaining agreement ends after the 2021 season


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                          • NAFBUC
                            ShowTime!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1277

                            #28
                            Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            The bargaining agreement ends after the 2021 season


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                            Thanks for the info ****'boy.

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                            • ninertravel
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 4833

                              #29
                              Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                              Originally posted by Bullit
                              Also, to add to this, didnt the Bargaining agreement end last year? They are or were also talking about getting rid of 40+ MILB teams and completely restructuring the system. Honestly at this point they may not even know what they can and can't put in the game. The future of MLB is very much in doubt right now. I don't think anybody has a clue what form it will take this year. Including Sony and MLB itself. The longer we go without hearing anything the more I believe we will see little to no change in the game this year. Honestly if we even see a "new" game at all.
                              If there is seriously going to be no change this year then there is no point releasing a game. just do a patch update for MLB 20. and we can pay $20 for it. and it updates uniforms and rosters and schedule.

                              I would consider not bothering to buy 21 if no change. all it would be is a roster update with the rookies no longer rookies from 2020.

                              If only their was a way to edit all service time I would do this now and just start 2021 season with mlb 20.. seeing we didn't even use the schedule this year what's it matter?

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                              • tessl
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5683

                                #30
                                Re: I wonder if the lack of information about mlbts21 is related to new platforms

                                Originally posted by Bullit
                                Also, to add to this, didnt the Bargaining agreement end last year? They are or were also talking about getting rid of 40+ MILB teams and completely restructuring the system. Honestly at this point they may not even know what they can and can't put in the game. The future of MLB is very much in doubt right now. I don't think anybody has a clue what form it will take this year. Including Sony and MLB itself. The longer we go without hearing anything the more I believe we will see little to no change in the game this year. Honestly if we even see a "new" game at all.
                                I don't see how they can have a minor league season unless and until they can have a lot of fans in the ballparks. The depend heavily on turnstile for revenue.

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