MLB The Show 21 March to October Improvements in New Teaser Trailer

[BigOscar]

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Honestly, the mode might be alright if they uncoupled it from DD so it wasn't default rosters and ridiculously janky sliders. (and the incredibly obvious comeback code stuff in the playoff games where you end up feeling like you have zero control over what is happening)

Even then though, this mode is arcade, it's not any attempt at realism or longevity. It's all about winning the world series that one season, not about any kind of project. The worse a team you use, it's just like playing on a harder difficulty, you are still all or nothing for the world series just with less margin for error. It's all about winning the WS and getting some points for your DD team.

I completed it with maybe 4 teams last year and honestly hated it most of the time, it's just not a fun experience in the way it plays, the things it wants you to do or the way it feels.

For all the talk of it being good for franchise mode or a gateway (I'd be stunned if anyone completed a second season with the mess it leaves after a MTO season), it simply isn't. The resources that were supposed to go to franchise were instead spent building this. The resources that continue to be given to it are resources not given to franchise. The reality is that SDS care more about a mode they can link to DD than they do a mode they can't, so that's why this exists and why franchise continues to be neglected.

[Caulfield]

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...For all the talk of it being good for franchise mode or a gateway (I'd be stunned if anyone completed a second season with the mess it leaves after a MTO season), it simply isn't...

absolutely. if someone becomes interested in franchise after a season of M2O, I'd be the first to suggest starting over fresh with another franchise, in year one.

[green94]

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Somehow, every year, SDS makes an even more gorgeous UI.

[CBoller1331]

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You really think MTO is there to introduce people to what franchise mode is? I look at is as somebody had an idea, “hey, let’s shorten the game and we’ll make these interesting scenarios”. Baseball has interesting scenarios all throughout a 9 inning game mixed in with blow outs, etc. Does MTO start you in the 6th inning down 10-1, or up 11-2? To me it’s just a waste of resources that could be spent on franchise mode.

They already have an introduction to the game called rookie mode and practice mode.

Sure to many of the people on this forum (myself included) those moments are interesting as far as how they affect final statistics and decisions on bullpen management (both in the current game and moving forward), but I don't blame anyone who doesn't find that interesting. Having been in the dugout and on the field for many of those games it's not hard to see why one may find those situations unappealing or boring.

I think MTO is a great idea in theory. Playing 162 9-inning games is as true a "grind" as there is. Even among the many passionate Franchise fans on this forum there are only a few who make it all the way through a full season playing every pitch (and to be clear I am not one of them...yet :wink. So streamlining the process a bit to get players who may not want or be able to commit that kind of time involved in a season mode is a good idea. Now actually creating a mode where making it through a full season is more achievable as well as keeping the player connected to what is happening throughout the year is much harder.

I do think the goal of the mode was to be a bit of a "gateway into franchise" for some mostly online/DD players as well as a "gateway into DD" for the franchise/offline crowd. But like others have mentioned in the past, by trying to please both worlds it seems like they created a relatively bare bones experience that neither community really enjoys that much.

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For anyone who loves MTO, please don't take this as a slight. I have nothing against the mode and would love to see some upgrades that would make it more a more appealing, "Franchise-esque" experience while maintaining some of the streamlined-gameplay options. Just in it's current state its not for me, and I have heard some mostly online-players say similar things about the mode.

I think there is still some promise in the mode. A few more options would definitely help. Being able to set how many/what kinds of situations you want to play would go along way. An option to use custom rosters has been a popular ask, but maybe that disqualifies/nerfs any DD rewards (I don't think many would be all that upset about this as online players essentially use the base roster in DD all the time, and offline players who like the mode probably don't care as much about the rewards). The addition of more in-depth roster management is definitely a step in the right direction. Both the DD and Franchise crowds enjoy the teambuilding aspects of those modes so allowing for more control over your roster is definitely a positive for anyone playing the game. Maybe with the addition of different play styles they can please both crowds too so playing against the CPU doesn't feel "bland" to those used to online play?? That may be wishful thinking...as others have pointed to how Madden has not really implemented the different styles very well.

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This is a little bit beside the point, but I think a great way to make the CPU seem like a more competitive opponent is to tweak the in game manager strategy (as well as trade/roster management logic in franchise, which seems to have gotten an upgrade this year in MTO) to be more like today's game. It does feel a bit cheap to get let off the hook and face a tired Adrian Houser for the 3rd game in a row when Hader and Devin Williams are both sitting fresh in the pen

Anyways, I didn't intend to make a post this long about a mode that I haven't really played much of. I just think there is some potential with MTO that I would like to see untapped, and I think there is a way to make it more appealing to a lot of people in both the offline and online communities. Sure it won't be for everybody, but I think there is something here

EDIT: I took a long time to write this post and there have been like 4 other posts that made similar points while I was typing this, so this all might look a little repetitive

[BrianMcNulty11]

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There is zero chance that depth chart screen with the years gets left out of franchise.


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[ninertravel]

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Doesn't March to October just dump you in Franchise mode when you are done?

My guess is this is the same small "improvements" you get for Franchise mode too. Also looks more and more like they will eventually phase out Franchise and just have March to October, and you are stuck using their crappy rosters. Not impressed what so ever

Yeah that is a fear of mine as well... Then losing 30 team control as well.. (going along how EA killed madden) MLB 20 then would be my game to play for the next 10 years if this happens. thank god we can edit service time in that game. it can last that long lol

[Holy Toledo]

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Simply put MTO never feels authentic. The End.

[ninertravel]

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Doesn't look like there is a closer position. Shows rp but not cp on the roster management tab.

My guess is it just makes all roster related info accessible in one place. You can scroll years to see players that will be free agents, team salary, depth chart and positional rank. I'm wonder if it also extrapolates progression and regression.



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This is something that needs to happen! the closer position I hate it because the CPU is obsessed with always using the closer in the 9th even if they are tanked. having everyone as a RP fixes this. and with teams using multiple closers this makes sense I hope that is in for franchise as well. it's a good move if this is the case I have wanted that for years.

[Willis135]

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I am typically a franchise only player. With that Said for mlb 21 I'm planning on using the Tigers for a challenging rebuild. For this reason I think I will prob start the Tigers in MTO and then go into a full franchise. Best way to get through that first year in my opinion since the 2021 Tigers will be lucky to win 60 games.

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[Grey_Osprey]

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I am typically a franchise only player. With that Said for mlb 21 I'm planning on using the Tigers for a challenging rebuild. For this reason I think I will prob start the Tigers in MTO and then go into a full franchise. Best way to get through that first year in my opinion since the 2021 Tigers will be lucky to win 60 games.

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I did this with the Giants and managed to win the WS in 6 games, albeit on veteran difficulty. I avoided unrealistic trades/call-ups and kept the roster intact. I had a blast with it and carried it into franchise with the dilemma of trying to compete or looking to start a rebuild as some veteran contracts expired. Unfortunately, I deleted the franchise while cleaning up some unnecessary saves.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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This is something that needs to happen! the closer position I hate it because the CPU is obsessed with always using the closer in the 9th even if they are tanked. having everyone as a RP fixes this. and with teams using multiple closers this makes sense I hope that is in for franchise as well. it's a good move if this is the case I have wanted that for years.

This is not true. Currently the cpu is too aggressive moving the closer out for someone else. I routinely see Chapman as middle relief. Here is screen shots from 2018 and Britton as closer getting moved out.

Also there needs to be a complete rework of trade logic and salary if cp removed .

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[milkmanbonzai]

Im happy for the new fron end. The lighting on the sides of the menu in MLB 20 wrecked my damn TV with crazy burn-in!

[ninertravel]

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This is not true. Currently the cpu is too aggressive moving the closer out for someone else. I routinely see Chapman as middle relief. Here is screen shots from 2018 and Britton as closer getting moved out.

Also there needs to be a complete rework of trade logic and salary if cp removed .

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This is only if you let the CPU do your lineups. and set it to auto which all it does it choose the best overall ratings and doesn't use any logic to how the season is going.

I don't do this. I am talking about gameplay wise. unless you actually change the lineup yourself the closer will stay in the 9th hole and the CPU will use that player in a 9th innings save situation EVERY SINGLE TIME even if they have pitched 5 days in a row and energy is red. the CPU has no idea how to manage the BP they never use the setup guys unless they have a 2 or 1 run lead in the 8th innings. the only way to fix it is to manually do it yourself is edit the pitcher from CL to RP and move them away from the 9th slot on the roster. then you gotta remember to reverse all that after the player is no longer tired.. not easy to do. the CPU is hopeless with the BP trust me I play every single pitch and every single game on the season schedule.

I think having every pitcher as a RP will stop the CPU from always using the damm closer in the 9th, even if you have them set in the middle of your BP roster. then they will be forced to use the 9th slot.

I know a way to solve this problem before the game when you pitch your starting pitchers. you get to also pick who you would want to setup as your closer and setup your BP and you can see on the screen who is tired and who is fresh and set it as priority. right now you can't see how tired any of your pitchers are until mid game in the actual BP.

[tree3five]

MLB The Show 21 March to October Improvements in New Teaser Trailer

Is there suppose to be a franchise video/teaser today?

[countryboy]

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Is there suppose to be a franchise video/teaser today?

I don't know today, but I'm thinking soon.

On their facebook page yesterday, they were accepting questions in regards to franchise mode