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  • forme95
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3118

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

    I just hope the budget change, isnt changed into budget for dummies. Its already simple and easy to read.
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    • The Kid 24
      It's Show Time!
      • Jan 2007
      • 14765

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

      Originally posted by eric7064
      I love logic being improved. That is always a good thing. Under the hood that benefits everyone.

      That being said, I am tired of logic being shown as the best new feature in franchise mode. Thats not a feature. That is an improvement on something already there.

      The audacity by SDS to have the stream on opening day and have this as the promotion for franchise. Yuck.
      Honestly I think OD and franchise stream on the same day is just a coincidence.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52759

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

        Originally posted by TheWarmWind
        Don't think it's time for panic mode yet. The refusal to answer contract negotiations and roster logic question in detail does allude to the potential of expanded rosters.

        However, my "deeply skeptical" mode remains engaged.
        Yeah when Ramone mentioned that it was too much to go into detail at the moment and would be explained fully in the stream, my ears perked up.

        I was expecting him to say yes the logic has changed and leave it at that, but was surprised they feel as though the changes are extensive enough to be fully discussed in the stream.

        I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters, but either way I'm intrigued to hear more about all the logic updates.
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        • canes21
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          • Sep 2008
          • 22921

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

          Originally posted by eric7064
          I love logic being improved. That is always a good thing. Under the hood that benefits everyone.



          That being said, I am tired of logic being shown as the best new feature in franchise mode. Thats not a feature. That is an improvement on something already there.



          The audacity by SDS to have the stream on opening day and have this as the promotion for franchise. Yuck.
          It has become the norm for this game and Madden to have changes to logic be some of the bigger changes we see annually despite those being changes that should be expected to have been made in the background each year.

          When your additions list each year is basically fine tuning changes that should be made at minimum each year, it shows how low of a priority the mode has become. Their other big changes so far are reverting the contracts back to an annual view like it used to be and how it should have always remained, and then a graphics update with a new depth chart.

          Hopefully something larger is in store for Thursday, but what we have to talk about at the moment is nothing short of disappointing, in my opinion of course.

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          • JoshC1977
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            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

            I'm just a wee bit more hopeful than I was...

            The response at the end to contract negotiations/call-ups/send-downs being "it's too complicated to discuss here" intrigues me.

            This suggests they may have done something a bit more than mere window dressing.

            That said, "different" does not mean "better"; so my optimism is still rather guarded...
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            • Jeffrey Smith
              MVP
              • Apr 2014
              • 1925

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

              Hopefully this means contract negotiations will be more robust. I’d love the opportunity to actually negotiate with free agents. Give me a chance to counter when another team makes a better offer.


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              • JoshC1977
                All Star
                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                Originally posted by countryboy
                Yeah when Ramone mentioned that it was too much to go into detail at the moment and would be explained fully in the stream, my ears perked up.

                I was expecting him to say yes the logic has changed and leave it at that, but was surprised they feel as though the changes are extensive enough to be fully discussed in the stream.

                I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters, but either way I'm intrigued to hear more about all the logic updates.
                I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters either. If those had been added to the game; one would think that they would have brought it up in the RTTS stream (i.e. Playable A-ball). That said, could they roll that out in the Next Gen stream? Maaaayyyybbbbeeee....

                (I personally have the odds of us seeing expanded rosters for this year's game at 1:50)
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                • TripleCrown
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1239

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  I'm just a wee bit more hopeful than I was...

                  The response at the end to contract negotiations/call-ups/send-downs being "it's too complicated to discuss here" intrigues me.

                  This suggests they may have done something a bit more than mere window dressing.

                  That said, "different" does not mean "better"; so my optimism is still rather guarded...
                  may as well implicate changes to players progression. Interesting.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52759

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters either. If those had been added to the game; one would think that they would have brought it up in the RTTS stream (i.e. Playable A-ball). That said, could they roll that out in the Next Gen stream? Maaaayyyybbbbeeee....

                    (I personally have the odds of us seeing expanded rosters for this year's game at 1:50)
                    Re-working the budget and contract negotiation along with their mentioning preparing for the future, or however its worded, has me holding onto to hope that expanded rosters are indeed in the game, for franchise mode.

                    While it being stated in RTTS about starting in A ball would've been an all be certainty, the fact that it wasn't mentioned doesn't completely eliminate it, since the additional roster spots are for non-playable games (ie Single A ball but players don't play games nor accumulate stats like the 10 "bonus spots" currently)

                    While I'm now losing hope that expanded rosters are in, I'm most certainly intrigued by the changes mentioned to budget, contracts and call up and send down, that I'm looking at my personal wishlist in regards to those things in hopes that some of my wishes can finally be crossed off the list.
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                    • ChaseB
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9844

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                      Originally posted by canes21
                      At least they made the decision to not buy the game at launch an easy one. I personally see no reason to buy the game at full price, or potentially at all this year, if franchise mode remains largely unchanged. We'll see what Thursday has in store for us, but I'm not expecting much.

                      Unless the logic has improved in franchise mode tremendously, I don't see any reason for me to get 21. It's a shame that even though baseball and football are my number 1 and 2 favorite sports, I end up buying and playing 2k for my sports fix because EA and SCEA have a target audience that I'm apparently not a part of. Fortunately us baseball fans have OOTP as an alternative if we desire well made franchise mode that has depth and competent AI.

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                      2K progression breaks like 2 years into the game haha. The progression is totally busted and without 30 team control and constantly editing rosters, MyLeague turns into a mess of dumb rosters and goofed up ratings (plus the obvious contract issues, dudes never wanting to sign off rookie deals, etc. etc.)

                      But if you're saying it's not due to franchise mode specifically and the vibes 2K is trying to pull off, then fair enough. 2K does try to add stuff to franchise mode -- and does technically add more stuff than anyone else so you can give applause for effort -- but it's a broken mess.

                      (And this isn't to defend The Show because they've obviously failed in the franchise mode department in recent years, I just thought it was weird to say 2K hits the spot when I have not been able to get like even 3 years into an enjoyable franchise in 2K for a couple years now due to major, major issues that are such a pain to manage -- and are as obvious as they ever have been this year -- which sucks because it's my most played game every year due to being an NBA fiend.)
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                      • CBoller1331
                        It Appears I Blue Myself
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 3082

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                        Definitely a bit more excited about Thursday's stream now. Obviously logic updates aren't the sexiest features to show off, but they are much needed. Hopefully lineup/bullpen logic made its way into Franchise as well since Ramone only mentioned it for MTO.

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                        • jack1535
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                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1789

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                          Originally posted by The Kid 24
                          Honestly I think OD and franchise stream on the same day is just a coincidence.
                          This and it being on April fools have been brought up so many times. It doesn’t matter. They did every Thursday and this stream happened to land on April 1st opening day
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                          • TotesMaGotes
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 182

                            #28
                            Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                            Realistically, what new additions to Franchise do some of you want? Emphasis on the realistically part. I primarily play franchise. I can't think of too many things it needs. A fresh coat of paint and improved logic is always welcomed. As far as features go, it is really well fleshed out. I'm not saying it is perfect or couldn't be improved, but exactly what are some of you looking for?

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52759

                              #29
                              Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                              Originally posted by TotesMaGotes
                              Realistically, what new additions to Franchise do some of you want? Emphasis on the realistically part. I primarily play franchise. I can't think of too many things it needs. A fresh coat of paint and improved logic is always welcomed. As far as features go, it is really well fleshed out. I'm not saying it is perfect or couldn't be improved, but exactly what are some of you looking for?
                              Here you go

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                              • JoshC1977
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 11564

                                #30
                                Re: MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A - March to October & Franchise Mode

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                Re-working the budget and contract negotiation along with their mentioning preparing for the future, or however its worded, has me holding onto to hope that expanded rosters are indeed in the game, for franchise mode.

                                While it being stated in RTTS about starting in A ball would've been an all be certainty, the fact that it wasn't mentioned doesn't completely eliminate it, since the additional roster spots are for non-playable games (ie Single A ball but players don't play games nor accumulate stats like the 10 "bonus spots" currently)

                                While I'm now losing hope that expanded rosters are in, I'm most certainly intrigued by the changes mentioned to budget, contracts and call up and send down, that I'm looking at my personal wishlist in regards to those things in hopes that some of my wishes can finally be crossed off the list.
                                One other thing...a significant budget and logic re-work could very well not mesh with Y2Y saves....with or without roster expansion....
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