MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Missing

[canes21]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

As much as I would love it, I’m sure you guys understand why franchise mode will never come close to being like OOTP.

OOTP caters to a very niche group. The Show has a MUCH broader audience and just wouldn’t make sense to do that. They have to accommodate as much demographics as possible, OOTP, not so much given it’s for a very specific audience.

I don't think anyone expects the game to be OOTP with gameplay on the field. All of us OOTP people know what isn't ever going to happen. That said, asking for expanded rosters, rotating interleague schedules, and international free agency isn't asking for the game to be OOTP. That's asking for some basic things that should be in a baseball game in 2021.

OOTP is a whole different animal because it is a baseball sandbox with near limitless customization. We will never get that in The Show. We should, however, have the three things I mentioned already along with other basic things like eating a players salary in a trade/cash considerations in trades. We should have an enhanced scouting system. That's been one of the most commonly requested changes for years now.

I don't see how asking for any of that is asking for the impossible. We won't ever get every single year of MLB history with named rosters that are playable and a franchise mode that can start at any of those years. We know that will remain special to OOTP. We won't get the 100s of options that let us customize everything we can imagine. We know that. We should have the other features that I've mentioned and have been asked for for years now.

If anyone says that asking for rotating interleague schedules, international free agents, expanded rosters, a better scouting system, and the ability to trade cash or eat a salary in a trade is asking for way too much, then I'll be at a loss for words. Those are features that should be in a game like The Show. Those are not hardcore features that only belong in OOTP.

Heck, even asking for the ability to play someone out of position and them to learn said position over time is something that shouldn't be reserved for only OOTP. That's another common baseball thing that has a place in the more casual game like The Show.

I'm not saying you're doing this, but it seems peoole are at times too forgiving and just use the "this isn't OOTP" as a copout. Let's not forget that NBA 2k is just as casual of a game as The Show and its franchise equivalent is easily closer to being like OOTP than it is The Show or Madden, two games that are a bit notorious these days for having dumbed down franchise modes and it isn't something that scares away the casuals. It's the best selling sports game in America despite not even being the most popular sport.

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[malky]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

What about adding something simple? League history more than 3 years. Even Madden and SuperMega baseball has that.

[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

I don't think anyone expects the game to be OOTP with gameplay on the field. All of us OOTP people know what isn't ever going to happen. That said, asking for expanded rosters, rotating interleague schedules, and international free agency isn't asking for the game to be OOTP. That's asking for some basic things that should be in a baseball game in 2021.

OOTP is a whole different animal because it is a baseball sandbox with near limitless customization. We will never get that in The Show. We should, however, have the three things I mentioned already along with other basic things like eating a players salary in a trade/cash considerations in trades. We should have an enhanced scouting system. That's been one of the most commonly requested changes for years now.

I don't see how asking for any of that is asking for the impossible. We won't ever get every single year of MLB history with named rosters that are playable and a franchise mode that can start at any of those years. We know that will remain special to OOTP. We won't get the 100s of options that let us customize everything we can imagine. We know that. We should have the other features that I've mentioned and have been asked for for years now.

If anyone says that asking for rotating interleague schedules, international free agents, expanded rosters, a better scouting system, and the ability to trade cash or eat a salary in a trade is asking for way too much, then I'll be at a loss for words. Those are features that should be in a game like The Show. Those are not hardcore features that only belong in OOTP.

Heck, even asking for the ability to play someone out of position and them to learn said position over time is something that shouldn't be reserved for only OOTP. That's another common baseball thing that has a place in the more casual game like The Show.

I'm not saying you're doing this, but it seems peoole are at times too forgiving and just use the "this isn't OOTP" as a copout. Let's not forget that NBA 2k is just as casual of a game as The Show and its franchise equivalent is easily closer to being like OOTP than it is The Show or Madden, two games that are a bit notorious these days for having dumbed down franchise modes and it isn't something that scares away the casuals. It's the best selling sports game in America despite not even being the most popular sport.

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Come on canes... I was replying to the guy who literally said he hoped it would be closer to OOTP. LOL. Almost why I hate even chiming in with posts like that because it’s unpopular and so someone has to always try to contradict it though it’s the truth, no one just wants to hear it.

I should’ve quoted it. If you look anywhere on these forums, you’ll see post after post saying to just be like OOTP. I simply gave the view from a game developer perspective of why that’s not possible for them.

[canes21]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

Come on canes... I was replying to the guy who literally said he hoped it would be closer to OOTP. LOL. Almost why I hate even chiming in with posts like that because it’s unpopular and so someone has to always try to contradict it though it’s the truth, no one just wants to hear it.

I should’ve quoted it. If you look anywhere on these forums, you’ll see post after post saying to just be like OOTP. I simply gave the view from a game developer perspective of why that’s not possible for them.

And the guy you were replying to wasn't asking for anything crazy like I was saying in my post.

He mentioned historical draft classes, but said that wasn't a big wish. Probably the most outlandish wish, but he also said he knew that.

International free agents. Something that is commonplace in baseball and should be in the game. We don't need foreign leagues, just have a market that has the top foreign players. Some come over to the MLB, others stay and reappear in the future.

Rotating interleague schedules. You yourself have said that this should have been in already and it is embarrassing that a company like SCEA hasn't fixed this yet.

Playable Single-A. Essentially expanded rosters. Common community request. Not a crazy request.

Then 3-team trades and he admitted this one would be a bit more difficult to get in, but even NBA 2k has this.

I don't see anything on this list that is too hardcore of a request for The Show. Practically all of those are very common community requests.

You can pretty much go anywhere outside of OS, go to Reddit, a very DD leaning crowd, Twitter, other forums, and these are all the same requests you will see annually, so it isn't OS just being OS and asking for very niche things to be added.

If people were coming on here and asking for every single year to be playable in franchise mode, or for sliders to change how players are valued _ how pitchers progress and regress versus hitters, and how inflation will be in the future, and all of those kinds of features, then I'd understand where people are coming from that always say "This isn't OOTP'. Those aren't the features people point out when they reference OOTP, though. It's always the same things this guy already mentioned which should already be in the game and are not things that are only for the niche crowd.

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

I wish they would have spent the time they spent on fixing check swings to put some of the basic stuff in the game.

[Formula1Racing]

Excellent video Brian, nicely breaking down the new fixes and features.  Thanks

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

Come on canes... I was replying to the guy who literally said he hoped it would be closer to OOTP. LOL. Almost why I hate even chiming in with posts like that because it’s unpopular and so someone has to always try to contradict it though it’s the truth, no one just wants to hear it.

I should’ve quoted it. If you look anywhere on these forums, you’ll see post after post saying to just be like OOTP. I simply gave the view from a game developer perspective of why that’s not possible for them.

I think the only way the Show could be as deep as ootp is if the Show had a separate PC edition, untied to the console version. there's a reason we can't play ootp on consoles. I know I can't play it on PlayStation and I'm assuming xbox as well also too

[HozAndMoose]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

I think the only way the Show could be as deep as ootp is if the Show had a separate PC edition, untied to the console version. there's a reason we can't play ootp on consoles. I know I can't play it on PlayStation and I'm assuming xbox as well also too

Last gen maybe but there is no reason ootp cant run on next gen consoles. PCs with much worse hardware can run it.

[zello144]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

1. Playable Single A

2. Playable Single A

3. Playable Single A

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

Last gen maybe but there is no reason ootp cant run on next gen consoles. PCs with much worse hardware can run it.

I sure hope ootp comes to next-gen consoles. I stopped playing when my laptop crashed. I never bother replacing because I really don't need a pc

1. Playable Single A

2. Playable Single High A

3. Playable Single Low A

fixxed

[Lovesports]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

What about adding something simple? League history more than 3 years. Even Madden and SuperMega baseball has that.

I've been asking for this for the last 6 years. This could literally be added via patch. I don't understand why SDS is so indifferent about the franchise mode. It almost makes me want to like a different sport

[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

I think the only way the Show could be as deep as ootp is if the Show had a separate PC edition, untied to the console version. there's a reason we can't play ootp on consoles. I know I can't play it on PlayStation and I'm assuming xbox as well also too

OOTP could’ve ran on the PS3 LOL. The problem is as I mentioned, it’s a very targeted audience. It doesn’t have the player base to support consoles and the required changes it would take to make it console friendly. It’s 100% build to be used with a keyboard and mouse, it would have to change so much to work with a console controller (Atleast friendly). This is why OOTP can be so deep though, they know their hardcore audience and can cater to that, no need to worry about the casual or worry about the gameplay. (Besides their 3D virtual sim play)

[coachmac75]

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Let’s forget Ootp it is not the point.

I mean SDS pushes real baseball fans to stop playing the show.

Community keeps asking same things: enhanced roster, enhanced scouting/draft etc...

Over the ps4 era, not only they did not develop any relevant new features but they removed two fundamental features: online franchise and save import.

It is a disaster. You mention Madden but Madden has effectively improved its franchise (i know some will jump but have a deep breath and read this before saying otherwise).

2k has all the features missing and that is the point.

[Karle]

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For me the most important thing still missing is the ability to reallign the teams including the ability to increase or decrease the number of teams.

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[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Franchise Mode - 5 Most Important Additions and What's Still Miss

Let’s forget Ootp it is not the point.

I mean SDS pushes real baseball fans to stop playing the show.

Community keeps asking same things: expNded roster, enhanced scouting/draft etc...

Over the ps4 era, not only they did not develop any relevant new features but they removed two fundamental features: online franchise and save import.

It is a disaster. You mention Madden but Madden has effectively improved its franchise (i know some will jump but have a deep breath and read this before saying otherwise).

2k has all the features missing and that is the point.

No one misses the “point”. We all want the mode to get off the ground, it should have by now. I think too many on here mistake positive posts. I don’t post about positive changes or post about limitations because I’m satisfied, quite opposite. I want more, way more. I just go about looking at it different than others, that’s okay.

If it wasn’t for the outspoken crowd, Madden wouldn’t of touched their franchise so I hope you guys continue to let them have it. If we could get this on PC, there’s several things I could fix like we do for Madden that would instantly create a better mode.