Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

[Dolenz]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

Hopefully it won't take long to fix RTTS due to them getting somewhat review bombed on Metacritic. Myself and others from the reddit have posted our honest (negative) experiences on the very public gaming review site Metacritic.

It's not review bombing, in my opinion, if you have played the game and are reviewing based on your honest opinions.

Review bombing usually happens when a game is reviewed poorly by those who have not played the game due to something they don't like about the company or the direction a game took.

Since, as far as I know, Metacritic will allow anyone to post a review for any reason I don't pay much attention to user review scores myself.

For example here is a 0 star review

$70 pass. I'll get this on gamepass for sure. The value is absolutely insane

Here is a 3 star review

I am really mad this game came out on Xbox, so here is a bad review because I am so mad. If only it was free, that would change my mind. Oh wait...?

Of course, on the flipside, there are perfect score user reviews that are just as useless.

[knucklecutter]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

I still don't understand the decision to even have every mode be connected to each other in some way.

Their vision of the end result is to have everyone playing DD.

[Hockeystatic]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

Would be nice now if they commented why Y2Y saves and SOTS were removed

Previous iterations of rtts wouldn't work in this game because of the "ballplayer" mechanic. So, it probably would have taken too much work to lift saves from a previous game and implement it seamlessly into this new system, not to mention make sure it works on both the old and new hardware.

I'd be interested to know how much of the foundational code changed.

[d2theb86]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

I think I saw someone mention that #1 was being worked on, but #2... [emoji23]

Twitted it to MLB, hopefully they'll get to it. Screenshot_20210420-123542_Fenix.jpeg

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[Mrfrosty]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

I know we can do a pitcher/batter like Ohtani this year in RTTS.

Does anyone know if you can be a closer/batter? Or do they force you to be a SP?

Yes you can be a Pos player/RP/CP. It allows you to choose if you want to be a full-time SP or a part time pitcher. Even gives you, at least, one more chance to change over.

[d2theb86]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

Yes you can be a RP/CP and Position Player.

Yes you can be a Pos player/RP/CP. It allows you to choose if you want to be a full-time SP or a part time pitcher. Even gives you, at least, one more chance to change over.

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[TarHeelPhenom]

Have not gotten the game yet and am trying to understand what they mean about modes being interwoven together. Is this something similar to the direction Madden went with Connect Careers Mode?

[loungefly85]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

Have not gotten the game yet and am trying to understand what they mean about modes being interwoven together. Is this something similar to the direction Madden went with Connect Careers Mode?

It means no more creating different players at different positions for any mode. You create 1, basically your avatar, for all modes. And while you “technically” don’t have to play DD in RTTS, as the game is now you pretty much have to if you want to advance in any meaningful way. Don’t even get me started on ridiculous loadouts, which is basically CoD nonsense.

It absolutely is awful. And the cherry on top is because RTTS is infected with their online mode, names have to go through a filter. Thankfully it’s not as bad as EA, which thinks my name is inappropriate for some reason (even though a fairly well known QB in the past shares my last name). But my friend with the last name of Cummings can’t play a supposedly “offline” mode in RTTS with his real name.

[Fuimus Troes]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

I kind of knew that Franchise was going to get the shaft, like always. Trade logic is just broken in a different way, scouting/drafting/prospects still untouched (!)...ugh.

But man, RTTS being FUBAR like this surprises me coming from SDS.

I try to avoid hyperbole when criticizing a game, but this does seem like a blatant dismissal of those who love that long-time mode, warts and all.

Once all the bugs are fixed and some QOL changes implemented, RTTS will still be a sham because the "overriding philosophy" of "ballplayer" by necessity sells that mode down the river.

The only time I can remember being a Franchise guy and being able to point to a subgroup that's taken it harder than my guys have.

[ExarKub00720]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

I kind of knew that Franchise was going to get the shaft, like always. Trade logic is just broken in a different way, scouting/drafting/prospects still untouched (!)...ugh.

But man, RTTS being FUBAR like this surprises me coming from SDS.

I try to avoid hyperbole when criticizing a game, but this does seem like a blatant dismissal of those who love that long-time mode, warts and all.

Once all the bugs are fixed and some QOL changes implemented, RTTS will still be a sham because the "overriding philosophy" of "ballplayer" by necessity sells that mode down the river.

The only time I can remember being a Franchise guy and being able to point to a subgroup that's taken it harder then my guys have.

Honestly I don’t think how rtts plays outside of not being able to play multiple unique looking people (you can still play as many saves on different teams and positions as you want) is that different from last year.

Archetypes are broken, but if they worked they way they were supposed to it would be the same idea. Yes you can switch between games but you can just stick with one. There is a few minor nuances that can seem odd or weird but I think it was hard to make a perfect two way player that could be in DD.

Maybe that is the ultimate failure, but the truth is the game plays awfully lot like before in almost every aspect that matters. The people who did a unique player for every single save will be bummed and the fact that archetype progression is broken is beyond stupid right now. Outside of those two things though it’s the same gameplay just slightly tweaked.

[Dolenz]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

There are definitely valid complaints to be made about the direction they took with RTTS (I definitely have some) right now things are muddied by the number of bugs in the mode.

There are major bugs that I believe many players don't even realize that they have. When I see someone says that they are in year two or three of their career and still a 60 overall, then I am pretty convinced that they have the archetype bug and don't even know that they are bugged. By that time you should have gotten the next level of Archetype and probably some gold perks.

As for the interconnectedness of the modes, I appreciate that I can play RTTS (or any other mode) and still be making progress in the DD programs and getting their rewards because they are based on XP now. But I am not sure that those benefits outweigh the restrictions that were added to RTTS to make that happen.

[Dolenz]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

I just tested this morning and my Archetype stats are progressing again.

[ExarKub00720]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

There are definitely valid complaints to be made about the direction they took with RTTS (I definitely have some) right now things are muddied by the number of bugs in the mode.

There are major bugs that I believe many players don't even realize that they have. When I see someone says that they are in year two or three of their career and still a 60 overall, then I am pretty convinced that they have the archetype bug and don't even know that they are bugged. By that time you should have gotten the next level of Archetype and probably some gold perks.

As for the interconnectedness of the modes, I appreciate that I can play RTTS (or any other mode) and still be making progress in the DD programs and getting their rewards because they are based on XP now. But I am not sure that those benefits outweigh the restrictions that were added to RTTS to make that happen.

I agree. I do feel their is stuff messed up behind the scenes for sure but overall I feel it’s not that far off minus as I said the ability to play as a multiple unique players.

Also, anyone having issues being moved up and they have leveled up their archetype and still can’t seem to get in despite having good scores and better overalls than your replacement l, I am fairly certain there is a big for two way players.

I have done multiple tests and no matter how many seasons i sim my two way player, which is a level 91 SS AND 87 SP never gets called up. If I just play as a 91 SS though I will be called up ever single time to MLB the first season.

So I suggest for now don’t pick two way, at least until the MLB calls you up. They will beg you multiple times in the season to try two way again so it isn’t lost forever if you do this.

[knich1]

Re: MLB The Show 21 RTTS Feedback, Fixes & Improvements Dev Blog

Would be nice now if they commented why Y2Y saves and SOTS were removed

Unfortunately, the article does little more than to confirm DD is the path of this game going forward. Why don't they just make a DD game like other video game producers have done like NBA JAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4NW...l=316whatupz)? This is what I think about with DD. At least then they have their exclusive audience.

Sadly, I don't think much will be done with Y2Y and SOTS and of course Franchise. I can still see Ramone saying on stream how they NEVER remove features and just add to them. Pretty soon the only feature will be DD...

[Dolenz]

Re: Developers Discuss MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show Upcoming Fixes & Improvements

I just tested this morning and my Archetype stats are progressing again.

And it's broke again. Or still broken

I am beginning to think that the progression bug and the fact that you can't change your loadout on the pre-game screen are tied together. If you play one game and the choose the return to clubhouse option instead of play next game I think the progression may work.

But because the option to choose loadouts when playing 2nd, 3rd, or 4th game of a series does not work I wonder if it just thinks you don't have a loadout chosen so it doesn't know what stats to track.

Of course I went to try and test this theory and got a network error starting the game so I could not.