2 Way Player Stamina issue

[ktd1976]

Seems there is a bit of an issue with 2 way players, such as Shohei Ohtani, in that they don't recoup much Stamina/Energy at all between starts when they DH on days they don't pitch.

I can understand not recouping much stamina when they play a position on the field. But, they should regain Stamina/energy when DHing

Is this something that can possibly be patched in?

[HozAndMoose]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Seems there is a bit of an issue with 2 way players, such as Shohei Ohtani, in that they don't recoup much Stamina/Energy at all between starts when they DH on days they don't pitch.

I can understand not recouping much stamina when they play a position on the field. But, they should regain Stamina/energy when DHing

Is this something that can possibly be patched in?

Been that way for the last 3 years now. Highly doubt it gets fixed this time.

This year im either gonna try and remember the days he starts and quick manage those games with cpu stamina maxed out so he loses less or ill just trade for him and do it.

[knich1]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Kinda makes 2 way player pointless if you can't use the player as 2 way because he's too tired...lol. Hits keep coming...

[Jr.]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Kinda makes 2 way player pointless if you can't use the player as 2 way because he's too tired...lol. Hits keep coming...

It's really disappointing. The only way you can somewhat effectively use them is as a reliever and hitter. And even that is pretty limited

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[ktd1976]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Kinda makes 2 way player pointless if you can't use the player as 2 way because he's too tired...lol. Hits keep coming...

I agree. Position player "energy" and starter "stamina" should be different.

Not the same, as they currently are.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Are you guys opening bugs for this? Go to The Show's website and under support, you can submit a bug.

[Jr.]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Are you guys opening bugs for this? Go to The Show's website and under support, you can submit a bug.

It's not a bug, it's how the game is designed

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[ktd1976]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

It's not a bug, it's how the game is designed

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Correct. But it needs to be changed.

[Fours]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Correct. But it needs to be changed.

These guys have a weird arrogance about telling us what we want. Just like the playoff stamina bug where each pitcher needs 8 days to recover full energy. It was constantly reported as a bug and they would say it intentional and realistic..

They had all kinds of poorly thought out reasons, like pitchers being more fatigued after a long season, but of course it wasn't tied to innings pitched at all.

I'm sure it's still in the game, and it's what happens when developers think that they understand something and then blindly defend their decision when a knowledgeable community makes they feel incompetent.

They will do the same with 2-way stamina.

[Jr.]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

These guys have a weird arrogance about telling us what we want. Just like the playoff stamina bug where each pitcher needs 8 days to recover full energy. It was constantly reported as a bug and they would say it intentional and realistic..

They had all kinds of poorly thought out reasons, like pitchers being more fatigued after a long season, but of course it wasn't tied to innings pitched at all.

I'm sure it's still in the game, and it's what happens when developers think that they understand something and then blindly defend their decision when a knowledgeable community makes they feel incompetent.

They will do the same with 2-way stamina.

This was one of the most infuriating design decisions ever. I still don't understand how they think that's the correct logic.

[gamer052001]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Are there any workarounds for this?

[ktd1976]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

Are there any workarounds for this?

The only thing I have found that sort of works, is maxing the Human SP stamina slider. You can then throw around 100 pitches while only using a little over half the stamina bar.

Then resting the player the day after he pitches (which isn't unrealistic)

Basically, what I do with my created 2 way player (haven't yet hit the games played requirements to officially make him a 2 way player) is this.

I will normally rest him the day before, and the day after his scheduled start (though I will sometimes vary this based on pitching matchup, or scheduled days off. I will, however, occasionally pinch hit him in these games.

I will start him at DH the two games between the day after his start, and the day before his start.

On the days he starts (I use the Tigers) I will use the workaround to get the pitcher to bat in A.L. Games.

To do this, you simply "DH" a player you want playing in the field, then start the previous game's starting pitcher at the position you want the DH playing.

Then once the game starts, move the current DH to that position. This will cause you to lose the DH, and force the pitcher to bat for the rest of the game. Starting the previous games starting pitcher at that position makes it so you don't have to burn a "bench" player in order to get the pitcher to bat.

Doing this, my 2 way player still hits in 3 out of every 5 games at minimum, sometimes more, if there are scheduled days off between his starts.

[tessl]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

I believe there should be a stamina issue. Babe Ruth was a great pitcher but the stopped using him as a pitcher because he couldn't do both.

[HozAndMoose]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

I believe there should be a stamina issue. Babe Ruth was a great pitcher but the stopped using him as a pitcher because he couldn't do both.

Then it shouldn't even be an option. We cant control how they use him if he isnt on our team so he just sits there with a trash ERA every single year.

[ktd1976]

Re: 2 Way Player Stamina issue

I believe there should be a stamina issue. Babe Ruth was a great pitcher but the stopped using him as a pitcher because he couldn't do both.

Tell that to Shohei Otahni, who is in the lineup almost every day, and pitches every 5th day.....