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  • zephyr13
    X marks the spot
    • Mar 2003
    • 458

    #1

    Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

    I have just finished reading a few articles on various sites regarding swing animations and batting stances effecting power numbers. Specifically, multiple articles stated that a one-handed follow through produces greater power numbers in general. Also multiple articles stated that Anthony Rendon's stance generates more power, while Chipper Jones' stance is the best for an all around hitter. What do you guys think?

    A) Do specific batting stances produce greater power?
    B) Do specific follow throughs produce greater power?
    C) Is there any proof out there or is it all conjecture and hearsay?

    I am interested in hearing what you all have to say. I haven't tried anything in game personally. Just trying to start up an interesting conversation.
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  • knucklecutter
    Pro
    • Mar 2020
    • 608

    #2
    Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

    In real life I could see different stances and swings causing more or less power, but I have no idea if that's modeled in the game or not, it's probably not.
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    • JoshC1977
      All Star
      • Dec 2010
      • 11564

      #3
      Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

      Do stances matter? Well, anecdotally, yes. I always hit better with certain stances (Joe Morgan, Scott Schebler, Scooter Gennett, Freddie Freeman). Some swings are longer than others, so if you're constantly swinging ahead of pitches, players with slower swings may be more apt to put you into a perfect timing range. If you're like me and are usually pushing the button a touch late, players with faster swings are better (why I rake with a guy like Morgan).
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      • HozAndMoose
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 3614

        #4
        Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

        I have always believed batting stance has had some effect even when simming. No proof since ive never sat down and tested it. But a few times ive had a player that was garbage then id switch his stance and he would be better.

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        • Ace2734
          Rookie
          • Aug 2015
          • 437

          #5
          Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

          Originally posted by JoshC1977
          Do stances matter? Well, anecdotally, yes. I always hit better with certain stances (Joe Morgan, Scott Schebler, Scooter Gennett, Freddie Freeman). Some swings are longer than others, so if you're constantly swinging ahead of pitches, players with slower swings may be more apt to put you into a perfect timing range. If you're like me and are usually pushing the button a touch late, players with faster swings are better (why I rake with a guy like Morgan).

          I think as users we see the ball better with certain stances. It’s why I could have better games with a guy like Brock Holt than Aaron Judge. I’m not sure if it affects ratings, but it certainly will affect production if it affects the user, which it does for me.


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          • Detroit Tigers
            MVP
            • Mar 2018
            • 1376

            #6
            Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

            The one-handed follow-thru thing I’m not sure I buy, but if the articles you mention have evidence then right on; stance and swing type definitely influences power though imo, if only because you’re taking a more naturally power-hungry swing-path with some stances versus others.

            I don’t think it’s adding 10+ HRs to anyone’s season but 3-5 extra dingers from stance alone? Yeah I can see that.
            Last edited by Detroit Tigers; 05-04-2021, 06:04 PM.
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            • imreal
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 54

              #7
              Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              Do stances matter? Well, anecdotally, yes. I always hit better with certain stances (Joe Morgan, Scott Schebler, Scooter Gennett, Freddie Freeman). Some swings are longer than others, so if you're constantly swinging ahead of pitches, players with slower swings may be more apt to put you into a perfect timing range. If you're like me and are usually pushing the button a touch late, players with faster swings are better (why I rake with a guy like Morgan).

              This. Even in the home run derby I could never hit with prime Pujols. Same with Jeff Bagwell in those older games.

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              • The_Subspace_Mariner
                Rookie
                • Apr 2019
                • 79

                #8
                Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                I've always hit better with lefties, specifically lefties with open stances. Now...the reasons could've many. Most pitchers are right handed, most lefties hit right handed pitching better, I might just be more comfortable with lefties because I am on.

                I will say in 20, I had a prospect who just destroyed the minors and hit 40 Homer's his rookie year (mostly simming), and he had George Brett's stance.
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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                  there are some stances that I just can't see well enough with to get good swing timing. which is why I love the stance editor. Alphonso Soriano always leaps to mind. no matter what his power attribute was I rarely hit homers or even doubles with him. if I could have gotten him into the editor back in the day, he'd be in my Show Cooperstown by now, I'm positive
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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #10
                    Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                    All I know is that me and Jose Bautista's swing get along like no other. Probably helped a lot that I always felt I was playing him correctly when I took a walk.

                    Everything else is kind of a big shoulder shrug from me.

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                    • CBoller1331
                      It Appears I Blue Myself
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 3082

                      #11
                      Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                      All I know is that me and Jose Bautista's swing get along like no other. Probably helped a lot that I always felt I was playing him correctly when I took a walk.

                      Everything else is kind of a big shoulder shrug from me.

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                      Bautista's 2013 stance is one of my favorite stances they've had in the game. Idk why but I just raked with his stance, so I used it for my rtts

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                      • Fiddy
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 12679

                        #12
                        Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Do stances matter? Well, anecdotally, yes. I always hit better with certain stances (Joe Morgan, Scott Schebler, Scooter Gennett, Freddie Freeman). Some swings are longer than others, so if you're constantly swinging ahead of pitches, players with slower swings may be more apt to put you into a perfect timing range. If you're like me and are usually pushing the button a touch late, players with faster swings are better (why I rake with a guy like Morgan).
                        Do you happen to have a list of players with faster swings? I feel as if I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to pressing the button.
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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #13
                          Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                          Originally posted by Fiddy
                          Do you happen to have a list of players with faster swings? I feel as if I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to pressing the button.
                          Not really. I pretty much test everyone out and go by 'feel'.

                          I'll say this...I generally prefer shorter players.
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                          • ZoltanZ
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 196

                            #14
                            Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                            Any player with a stance that crowds the plate or a closed style stance I do terrible with. If I get pitched inside I will strike out all day because it looks like a ball but they are so close to the plate its an inside strike.

                            Anyone with an open stance or who is away from the plate I do really well with. I think I just see the ball better

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                            • imreal
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 54

                              #15
                              Re: Theory: Batting Stances Effecting Power

                              Off-Topic but, certain pitchers/deliveries effect overall speed of a pitch.

                              Thor's sinker reaches 99 mph. But every "The Show" when you go to create a pitcher and use a sinker the max is like 95 mph; Unless they just mad Thor's sinker this way on purpose.

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