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  • lemarflacco
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1001

    #1

    Lineup Logic

    CPU lineup logic is one of the worst things in this game for me. The logic seems like it is based off of code from like 2010. And not to crap on jus the Show, this is for like every sport game. NBA 2k is horrible when it comes to big men. They will play a 1987 lineup where Hassan white side is playing PF. Madden is bad too, especially with fatigue and rotating rb's/wr's but I digress.

    Largely, baseball would go by the idea that you put your best batters 2 and 3, maybe 4. But the idea is to maximize their times at bat. The CPU is stuck in a bygone era where they put their two fastest hitters , table setters, contact guys, utility players, 1 and 2. And I could deal with a couple teams doing it but its like hard coded for everyone to do it.You end up with them runnin out orders like...

    Yankes
    1- wade
    2- gardener
    And this effectively moves judge down to like the 6th position with Wade and gardener batting in front of him?

    White Sox
    1. billy hamilton
    2.. nick madrigal
    3. Tim anderson
    This moves like yoan Moncada down to 7 to make sure you get billy Hamilton , who can't get on base hit, at the top of your lineup? And its really the exact opposite. Hamilton should be hard coded to hitting 9th.

    Anyone have any fixes other than to set the lineups yourself?

    And PS.. I actually do manage all the lineups but when they chose to give a player a day off, its like they get Bobby Cox or Sparky Anderson on the horn to make their lineup card for that day lol
  • Detroit Tigers
    MVP
    • Mar 2018
    • 1376

    #2
    Lineup Logic

    Yeah this has always sucked; it’s exactly this kind of stuff that spawned 30-team control in the first place iirc. See tbarnes franchise thread for many more similar issues.

    I just let it ride. Whatever. Same with AI bullpen usage issues. I just don’t care enough anymore and it seems SDS doesn’t either.
    Just one man’s opinion.
    I don’t actually care about any of this.

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    • ExarKub00720
      Rookie
      • Apr 2021
      • 117

      #3
      Re: Lineup Logic

      I have had so many issues with just logic in roster at times especially for me in RTTS. I was playing as the Yankees and I personally tend to modify rosters myself and often strife for a equal balance of players in all roles to give the team in the season a good chance. So basically I just move around all the nobodies until you have 6 in each position and 20/20/5 in SP/RP/CP respectively.

      Most teams, it works great for. Not the Yankees for Gardner and Frazier. No matter what I did they were always AAA bound and Andjuar and Valzaeuez took their place in the roster. I even artificially inflated their skills made them both 90 overall players and the others 60 overall to just see if they would take them and nope they were still in AAA.

      Now if I kept rosters in the shape they were in everything was fine they would take those players so I eventually had to just say screw it they get no balance of the minor leagues and moved on.

      It was just very odd to see the computer decide no matter what they were not going to use the players that arguably were better especially when I jacked up their skills.

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      • bronxbombers21325
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 3058

        #4
        Re: Lineup Logic

        Given the number of times I have to play the Red Sox each season. Seeing them DH Bogarts, and play Martinez in left field drives me up the wall.

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        • lemarflacco
          Banned
          • Mar 2018
          • 1001

          #5
          Re: Lineup Logic

          Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
          Given the number of times I have to play the Red Sox each season. Seeing them DH Bogarts, and play Martinez in left field drives me up the wall.
          Exactly!!!! Stuff like this man.

          In nba 2k you can't like designate a player to be a non-starter. We need things like this like JD needs to have a DH designation where he will only play that position. And maybe a designation where you can say a player is designated to bat leadoff or cleanup etc

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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21794

            #6
            Re: Lineup Logic

            While I agree lineup logic is baffling and archaic at this point, 30 team control fixes it. Takes a little effort but it works.

            Yeah, should not have to.....but we do and the tools are there to fix it ourselves.




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            • ReturnoftheTmac
              Pro
              • Nov 2012
              • 797

              #7
              Re: Lineup Logic

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              While I agree lineup logic is baffling and archaic at this point, 30 team control fixes it. Takes a little effort but it works.

              Yeah, should not have to.....but we do and the tools are there to fix it ourselves.




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              I do the same, but as a previous poster said, when guys get “rest days” for some reason the CPU goes haywire on the lineup. So I’m not even sure how many games “our” lineups actually get used.

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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21794

                #8
                Re: Lineup Logic

                Originally posted by ReturnoftheTmac
                I do the same, but as a previous poster said, when guys get “rest days” for some reason the CPU goes haywire on the lineup. So I’m not even sure how many games “our” lineups actually get used.


                Yeah super annoying.


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                • Nygs
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Re: Lineup Logic

                  Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                  Yeah super annoying.


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                  Just curious about this "30 team control". If I do use this, and set all other teams, besides the team I wish to use, to "auto manage", will the CPU still make trades and roster moves? Or will I have to do that? Never tried 30 team control before. Just bought 21 for PS5. Thanks.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52785

                    #10
                    Re: Lineup Logic

                    Originally posted by Nygs
                    Just curious about this "30 team control". If I do use this, and set all other teams, besides the team I wish to use, to "auto manage", will the CPU still make trades and roster moves? Or will I have to do that? Never tried 30 team control before. Just bought 21 for PS5. Thanks.
                    Here is a link to the best tutorial on how to setup 30 team control

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