No Hitters

[Mackrel829]

I know it's a rare event so isn't a massive deal, but how do you guys deal with user no hitters?

It seems like you can't really achieve one unless you bump starter stamina way up. It's either that or leave the starter in with red energy for multiple innings, which doesn't seem wise.

How do you guys approach it?

[knucklecutter]

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To be fair, in real life no hitters aren't that rare, especially this year. Having said that, in the game increasing the stamina's to 8 for both starter and relievers doesn't enable them to throw way too many pitches so they can stay in the game longer, but what it does do is it increases the amount of effective pitches they can throw, which is not unrealistic.

[Rmiok222]

Re: No Hitters

To be fair, in real life no hitters aren't that rare, especially this year. Having said that, in the game increasing the stamina's to 8 for both starter and relievers doesn't enable them to throw way too many pitches so they can stay in the game longer, but what it does do is it increases the amount of effective pitches they can throw, which is not unrealistic.

Yep I was about to say 8 as well! Works good for me


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[Unlucky 13]

Re: No Hitters

I know it's a rare event so isn't a massive deal, but how do you guys deal with user no hitters?

It seems like you can't really achieve one unless you bump starter stamina way up. It's either that or leave the starter in with red energy for multiple innings, which doesn't seem wise.

How do you guys approach it?

For me, it usually happens with a pitcher who doesn't throw a lot of strikeouts. And usually, one who has a sinker and a slider. Playing with the Cubs, Kyle Hendricks will usually throw fewer than ten pitches an inning for me, and sometimes less.

My all time best was Jake Arrieta at his peak in 2016, when he was unbelievable in both real life and The Show. I got a perfect game with him on 65 pitches. I think I had three no hitters that year with him. All time Show HOF for me.

[Doyoueven85]

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I’ve played this game for 16 years and I’ve only thrown two lol. One with Chris Sale, the other with Tim Wakefield. Yea I know. Wakefield? lol. But what I will say is I don’t recall ever having so many almost no hitters as I have this year. It’s crazy. Feel like I’m bound to get one on 21 at some point.

[bcruise]

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FWIW, in player lock situations (and when playing vs CPU) the AI will often leave a pitcher in with no energy if he has a no-hitter/perfect game, and if there is no threat to the game's outcome by doing so. So choosing to leave an empty pitcher in there as a user player/manager isn't really any different than what it would do.

By "no threat" I mean if the game is not close. Like, if you walk someone late in a 1-0 or 2-0 game, you might still get the hook even with a no-hitter going because the tying run is now either on base or at the plate.

[Mackrel829]

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To be fair, in real life no hitters aren't that rare, especially this year. Having said that, in the game increasing the stamina's to 8 for both starter and relievers doesn't enable them to throw way too many pitches so they can stay in the game longer, but what it does do is it increases the amount of effective pitches they can throw, which is not unrealistic.

I think there's some useful info here, which I appreciate, but I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean. Can you rephrase this for me by any chance?

[knucklecutter]

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I think there's some useful info here, which I appreciate, but I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean. Can you rephrase this for me by any chance?

Ok, so you would think that by jacking the pitchers stamina up that they would be able to throw an unrealistic amount of pitches before tiring out but it doesn't work that way, mostly.

So let's say with default stamina 5 which won't allow pitchers to throw as many as they do in real life pitcher A can throw 75 pitches before he's totally out of energy, and for example sake lets say after 50 pitches they start to get less effective / worse. Slower, less break on curves, missing the target area etc...

So now with Stamina at 8 and the same pitcher he can now throw 100 pitches before he's totally out of energy and he can throw 85 before they start to really go downhill.
Make sense?

[lemarflacco]

Re: No Hitters

To be fair, in real life no hitters aren't that rare, especially this year. Having said that, in the game increasing the stamina's to 8 for both starter and relievers doesn't enable them to throw way too many pitches so they can stay in the game longer, but what it does do is it increases the amount of effective pitches they can throw, which is not unrealistic.

In real life, no hitters ARE rare .theres been approx 732 games played and there are 8 no hitters, so far. So even with this being a record setting pace , that pace still is one no hitter every 91 games and no hitters happen 1% of time. by definition, 1% of anything is rare... unless you're taking bout covid death rates lol

[knucklecutter]

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In real life, no hitters ARE rare .theres been approx 732 games played and there are 8 no hitters, so far. So even with this being a record setting pace , that pace still is one no hitter every 91 games and no hitters happen 1% of time. by definition, 1% of anything is rare... unless you're taking bout covid death rates lol

What I meant is that in the grand scheme of things over a long period of time they happen a few times a year basically every year, I would call that somewhat frequent. Perfect games are far and few between, that I would call rare.


Edit: I can see how it could be considered rare and probably is to most people, I guess I was just looking at it from a different perspective.

[nymets31]

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I went 8 1/3 hitless with deGrom this morning, and gave it up with him at 124 pitches...he was out of gas at the beginning of the 8th, but I didn't pull him with the no-no going. The last no-hitter I had on The Show was in 2014 with Matt Harvey. Several 1 hitters, but no-hitters are hard to come by.

[bkrich83]

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I had a no hitter with Blake Snell against the Pirates for 8 2/3 innings last night. Snell was out of gas and I hung a breaking ball that ended up being a single up the middle.

Almost my first no hitter in my history of playing baseball video games.

[TonyMoraco15]

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First off, thank you for this thread.. I say that because I recently pitched a no hitter for the first time in God knows how many years playing this game... and it felt sooo awesome to be able to achieve that and did not want to create a new thread for it, so thank you once again.

For me, Ive always played this game with classic pitching and hitting. With difficulties at all star plus for pitching and HOF for batting, and the stamina slider at 5 (default) and bullpen stamina slider at 2.

The trick is to always have good innings for as long as you can, usually keeping your pitches around 12 - 14 per inning so when the 3rd time around comes you’ll have some energy in tank when they really work the counts. This way you can get 6 or 7 innings out of your starter if he has a stamina rating of 80 - 85 for example...

For the no hitter I was pitching with Anthony DesClafanj, and I threw 106 pitches with 6 strikeouts, 2 walks and 1 hit by pitch. Obviously the next start he wasn’t fully recovered so I pitched only 5 innings with about 75 pitches and allowed 4 ER.

[Mackrel829]

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Ok, so you would think that by jacking the pitchers stamina up that they would be able to throw an unrealistic amount of pitches before tiring out but it doesn't work that way, mostly.

So let's say with default stamina 5 which won't allow pitchers to throw as many as they do in real life pitcher A can throw 75 pitches before he's totally out of energy, and for example sake lets say after 50 pitches they start to get less effective / worse. Slower, less break on curves, missing the target area etc...

So now with Stamina at 8 and the same pitcher he can now throw 100 pitches before he's totally out of energy and he can throw 85 before they start to really go downhill.
Make sense?

Yeah that makes sense. Cheers!

With the stamina on 8, do you not see the starter staying in beyond 5-6 innings more often than is realistic? Do you bump the manager hook up at all to compensate, if so?

[knucklecutter]

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Yeah that makes sense. Cheers!

With the stamina on 8, do you not see the starter staying in beyond 5-6 innings more often than is realistic? Do you bump the manager hook up at all to compensate, if so?

How long the starters stay in the game is situational and can't really be given a straight answer and no there is no need to increase the manager hook.


As an example, on opening day in my Braves franchise Phillies pitcher Aaron Nola threw 97 pitches and was replaced for the top of the 6th while I was leading 3 to 1.