How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

[DonkeyJote]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

This is an interesting and helpful read. I'm not well-versed on advanced statistics and the current way teams are assessing hitters' value.

I'm wondering if folks who are more plugged in can give me some perspective on how, how much, and where teams in the current era value defense.

I know this varies from team to team, but in general terms, how do current GMs and managers think about defense?

The adage I'm familiar with is something like "defense up the middle" (C/SS/2B/CF), with your power coming from 1B/3B/RF. Does that still hold, more or less, or has the calculus changed?

What are some guidelines I can use to figure out if a player is SO good at offense that potential defensive shortcomings are nullified, or if a player is SO good at defense that poor offensive production is acceptable.

I'm most interested in answers that help me understand real MLB but also help me translate that understanding into an ability to use some principles in The Show.

I always appreciate the knowledge and passion this community brings, so thanks advance!

The adage I'm familiar with is something like "defense up the middle" (C/SS/2B/CF), with your power coming from 1B/3B/RF. Does that still hold, more or less, or has the calculus changed?

I think in general, teams value offense more than defense aside from catcher. I'd say 2B especially probably has its defense valued much less than in the past because of the shift, and 3B probably a little more, though it's still an offensive position. RF defense I think is more valued to some teams than when I was a kid too. Jason Heyward had a .766 ops and 24 hr the two seasons prior to getting his $180 million deal; he got paid for RF defense. But overall, offense is more important with the exception of Catcher. I don't think you'd see Mike Trout playing CF in most eras, but he's still considered the best player in baseball. Fernando Tatis has like a bazillion errors, but he's still clearly the top Shortstop in baseball.

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[Duff2]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

[tessl]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

^^^^yeah I think it’s even still there. Noticed Javy Baez had the upset red face on the morale tab but it was because I hadn’t placed him in the lineup at all yet (traded for him).

Sneaking suspicion morale works the same way it always has it’s just hidden now. Just guessing though. Something is certainly effecting it because it’s there and it changes, just no indicators as to what.

Developers in a stream said morale no longer impacts performance but it does impact contract negotiations.

[knich1]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

I think the coaches just throw them all in a hat and go with it.

Just look at Yankees lineup this year. It's been all over the place.

[DarthRambo]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

I think the coaches just throw them all in a hat and go with it.

Just look at Yankees lineup this year. It's been all over the place.

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] good one

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[Caulfield]

Re: How MLB lineups are formed nowadays

I think the coaches just throw them all in a hat and go with it.

Just look at Yankees lineup this year. It's been all over the place.

yep. that has to be it, when pitchers are batting lead-off and playing DH