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  • xxvii
    Rookie
    • Mar 2020
    • 47

    #1

    more walks as a pitcher

    I'm looking to generate more walks as the pitcher since I lead the league in least amount by a ridiculous "unsim" margin in mid- June of my Pads chise
    (something like 20 walks given up)-- all other stats are fairly realistic. Using Meter, HOF (dynamic diff). Is there a way to do this with sliders without being deliberate and intentionally walking players?
    Also, all hits seem to be homeruns or bust for the CPU, seems rare they work the bases loaded. I suppose Im just looking for realistic pitching sliders?
    Im playing the Show 20-- too broke lol
    Any suggestions?
  • knucklecutter
    Pro
    • Mar 2020
    • 608

    #2
    Re: more walks as a pitcher

    I would try either changing the pitching mechanic to classic which will help the ratings take more control of the outcome than the user inputs, or maybe turn down the control slider. That's where I'd start.
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    • Mackrel829
      MVP
      • Mar 2019
      • 1261

      #3
      Re: more walks as a pitcher

      I'd leave everything alone and turn the pitch trail fade and vibration off. That way, you're aiming using pure feel on the analog stick. This is how I play and it's great! It's much harder to dot those corners when there's no UI telling you exactly where you're aiming.

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      • knucklecutter
        Pro
        • Mar 2020
        • 608

        #4
        Re: more walks as a pitcher

        Originally posted by Mackrel829
        I'd leave everything alone and turn the pitch trail fade and vibration off. That way, you're aiming using pure feel on the analog stick. This is how I play and it's great! It's much harder to dot those corners when there's no UI telling you exactly where you're aiming.

        That is also a valid tactic.
        YouTube: MLB The Show 21 Atlanta Braves Franchise

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        • KnightTemplar
          MVP
          • Feb 2017
          • 3282

          #5
          Re: more walks as a pitcher

          Originally posted by Mackrel829
          I'd leave everything alone and turn the pitch trail fade and vibration off. That way, you're aiming using pure feel on the analog stick. This is how I play and it's great! It's much harder to dot those corners when there's no UI telling you exactly where you're aiming.
          Absolutely. Only way to go.

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          • xxvii
            Rookie
            • Mar 2020
            • 47

            #6
            Re: more walks as a pitcher

            Originally posted by Mackrel829
            I'd leave everything alone and turn the pitch trail fade and vibration off. That way, you're aiming using pure feel on the analog stick. This is how I play and it's great! It's much harder to dot those corners when there's no UI telling you exactly where you're aiming.
            appreciate it. I'm testing it out now and think it will help. Is it possible to turn off the scoreboard too? that way I have to keep track of the count

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            • knucklecutter
              Pro
              • Mar 2020
              • 608

              #7
              Re: more walks as a pitcher

              Originally posted by xxvii
              appreciate it. I'm testing it out now and think it will help. Is it possible to turn off the scoreboard too? that way I have to keep track of the count

              Yes you can turn it off.
              YouTube: MLB The Show 21 Atlanta Braves Franchise

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              • lemarflacco
                Banned
                • Mar 2018
                • 1001

                #8
                Re: more walks as a pitcher

                I would turn consistency and accuracy to zero. Really adds to realism when you pitch with pitchers who have bad control, you'll have no idea where the balls going

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                • jeffy777
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3322

                  #9
                  Re: more walks as a pitcher

                  In addition to the great advice others have already shared:

                  You've heard the great Alec Baldwin speak of A.B.C. (Always Be Closing), and I'm here to tell you A.B.N. is more applicable to The Show: Always Be Nibbling!

                  Even with 3 balls, don't give in; Keep nibbling the corners. You often see big league pitchers do this which is why they walk more guys. They don't want to give in, even to mediocre hitters, because any guy with a bat in his hand is dangerous, especially with a 3-0 or 3-1 count (if they don't feel dangerous then you need to turn up the difficulty).

                  Pitch like that and you will walk more hitters.
                  Last edited by jeffy777; 06-05-2021, 03:58 PM.

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                  • Detroit Tigers
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1376

                    #10
                    Re: more walks as a pitcher

                    Originally posted by jeffy777
                    Even with 3 balls, don't give in; Keep nibbling the corners.
                    yeah i was gonna say something similar.

                    the only way i've found to get "good" walkrates while pitching is to just stop being so aggressive all the time.

                    not every at-bat needs to start 0-2. you can't play baseball with your teeth clenched. it's a finesse & timing game first, power second. sometimes a guy just deserves the base after a while. and sometimes it's a good idea to walk a guy or two so that the AI doesn't think you're ALWAYS, ALWAYS gonna throw a strike on 3-ball counts.

                    at the end of the day, if you want more walks, walk more batters. you'll start hating them again soon enough and remember why you don't actually want more walks. vicious little cycle. sliders won't fix it per se because it will always come back to your psychological willingness to let at-bats go. just because your control is complete trash doesn't mean you'll suddenly start wanting to not throw strikes. instead you'll compensate for your lack of control and still try to throw all strikes via that compensation.

                    Guess I'm saying yeah I've struggled with this for a decade. The solution is not crappier pitching accuracy, I can tell you that. The solution is to just walk more batters.
                    Just one man’s opinion.
                    I don’t actually care about any of this.

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                    • canes21
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 22912

                      #11
                      Re: more walks as a pitcher

                      Simple solution is to turn control down. I think my control slider is either at 2 or 3 on Legend and I'm leaning towards knocking it down a tick again.

                      I understand why people prefer playing with the ball and trail off, I did that for many years, but I personally leave it on now. In real life when I try to aim where I am throwing, I look where I am throwing and aim there directly. My control and consistency is what keeps me from hitting the same spot every time in real life, not because I couldn't aim my eyes directly where I wanted the ball to go. Given that, I like to turn Control and Consistency down to get a more accurate pitching experience for myself.
                      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                      ― Plato

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                      • Mackrel829
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 1261

                        #12
                        Re: more walks as a pitcher

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        Simple solution is to turn control down. I think my control slider is either at 2 or 3 on Legend and I'm leaning towards knocking it down a tick again.

                        I understand why people prefer playing with the ball and trail off, I did that for many years, but I personally leave it on now. In real life when I try to aim where I am throwing, I look where I am throwing and aim there directly. My control and consistency is what keeps me from hitting the same spot every time in real life, not because I couldn't aim my eyes directly where I wanted the ball to go. Given that, I like to turn Control and Consistency down to get a more accurate pitching experience for myself.
                        There's not a blue line that comes out of your eyes that tells you if you're actually aiming where you think you're aiming in real life though. You're estimating where you're aiming, and you might be wrong. If you're playing golf, you might think you're aiming directly at hole when you're actually aiming 6ft off to the left.

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                        • Seancefc
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 437

                          #13
                          Re: more walks as a pitcher

                          Originally posted by Mackrel829
                          There's not a blue line that comes out of your eyes that tells you if you're actually aiming where you think you're aiming in real life though. You're estimating where you're aiming, and you might be wrong. If you're playing golf, you might think you're aiming directly at hole when you're actually aiming 6ft off to the left.
                          I can relate to that!

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                          • canes21
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22912

                            #14
                            Re: more walks as a pitcher

                            Originally posted by Mackrel829
                            There's not a blue line that comes out of your eyes that tells you if you're actually aiming where you think you're aiming in real life though. You're estimating where you're aiming, and you might be wrong. If you're playing golf, you might think you're aiming directly at hole when you're actually aiming 6ft off to the left.
                            And that's where the control slider comes into play. My eyes know that I'm trying to hit an exact point, but my actual control/accuracy as a person in real life determines whether or not I hit my target and how often.

                            I'm not inaccurate in real life because I was not actually looking where I was throwing. I'm inaccurate because my mechanics are not perfect and my control takes a hit from that.

                            In real life the catcher can set up his glove in the same spot every time and I know with 100% confidence that is my target, but my control/accuracy as an individual will determine how close to the target I actually get. I don't miss because I didn't have a blue line telling me where I was aiming. I knew what I was aiming for the whole time, but my control dictated where the ball went.

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                            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                            ― Plato

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