Pickoffs need to be reduced

[gottago24]

I hope they fix pickoffs. The amount they allow is ridiculous. CPU seems to be able to pick off guys at a ridiculous rate even on lower difficulty. I have guys with 95 plus speed and 90 plus steal getting picked off routinely. Bad look. They need to fix that.

[JoshC1977]

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I hope they fix pickoffs. The amount they allow is ridiculous. CPU seems to be able to pick off guys at a ridiculous rate even on lower difficulty. I have guys with 95 plus speed and 90 plus steal getting picked off routinely. Bad look. They need to fix that.

Stop taking an extra lead off of first...you don't need to do that, the base lead is a normal lead for steal attempts.

[Archie56]

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Stop taking an extra lead off of first...you don't need to do that, the base lead is a normal lead for steal attempts.

Yeah, taking that extra lead is not necessary at all to steal a base. All you're doing is just asking to be picked off lol

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[tinpanalley]

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I have to be honest that I've been playing the show since 2006 and I never knew that. I thought it was the only way to improve steal success and just thought the game was excessively aggressive on pickoffs.
However, I also find that players are far too low rated on steal ability.

[Seancefc]

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Stealing has been a nightmare for me with the mets, mostly because there’s very little speed on the team but I’ve found L2 only, probably won’t get you to second unless you’re fast. I pre-load to steal with L2 then AFTER the pitcher has taken his look over to first press L1…I’ve had more success.

You press L1 too early you’re in a run down at best- which are too easy to escape IMO.

[imreal]

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The amount of pickoff attempts needs to be toned down with quick play. I can see on the higher difficulty levels w/ the pitcher being more effective.

But if I just want some XP before I leave for work on rookie. The pickoff/number of attempts are ridiculous to me. OT, but whats the point of waiting for an obvious foul ball to land in the stands?

[TripleCrown]

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Stop taking an extra lead off of first...you don't need to do that, the base lead is a normal lead for steal attempts.

That’s the problem, there’s no cat & mouse game. Every year I’m sending SDS my suggestions including having small increment leadoff steps. Depending on player’s skills, you can take none, 1 or 2 or even maybe 3 small steps.

[countryboy]

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That’s the problem, there’s no cat & mouse game. Every year I’m sending SDS my suggestions including having small increment leadoff steps. Depending on player’s skills, you can take none, 1 or 2 or even maybe 3 small steps.

But there is a cat and mouse.

While its true that you can successfully steal a base with the standard leadoff, increasing your lead by a step greatly increases your chances, especially with lower rated steal/speed guys.

The problem is that people will automatically press L1 to take the extra step lead too soon. You need to wait for the pitcher to come set, check the runner and then try to take that extra step lead. This will at times cause the pitcher to throw over again which you may or may not get picked off.

Also if you que up a steal there are times the pitcher will throw over to keep the baserunner close. Queing the steal is similar to the runner leaning or shuffling his feet to better his chances at stealing the base.

I've been picked off queing a steal and have picked off the CPU with a normal lead because I believe they were going to steal on that pitch, but I threw over and caught them "leaning".

[TripleCrown]

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I agree with you @coutryboy on how people are using L1 to steal but in all respect i don’t think the cat & mouse game is in there. Good base stealers, will take a few big steps right away but they’ll still take really small steps, like 6 inches until they think they reached the limit based on each pitcher move.

Right now, you can’t take even one more step without jeopardize your on base presence. It’s pretty binary where in real life, even normal speed guys will take a few small steps if they see the 1B playing further how feel the pitcher not paying attention.

[dlxsf18]

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how do i double steal?

[Seancefc]

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how do i double steal?

Press L2 without pointing at a base.

[DarthRambo]

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I turned pickoff attempts to 0 a long time ago and the AI still attempts plenty imo. I use auto Baserunning and never manually steal or take an extra lead and got picked off at least 1 or 2 times a game without doing anything.

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[jada855]

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I agree with you @coutryboy on how people are using L1 to steal but in all respect i don’t think the cat & mouse game is in there. Good base stealers, will take a few big steps right away but they’ll still take really small steps, like 6 inches until they think they reached the limit based on each pitcher move.

Right now, you can’t take even one more step without jeopardize your on base presence. It’s pretty binary where in real life, even normal speed guys will take a few small steps if they see the 1B playing further how feel the pitcher not paying attention.

I recommended a jab step gameplay mechanic a while ago as well. As much as we want gameplay to improve I personally think the dynamic changes in cpu offense and defense as well as manual control will not happen its been an awful long time. Heck I brought the game before release and did not play it for so long after the gameplay improvements let down. I just realized all the new equipment they added. So to me its just not worth it anymore until something better comes along that is actually more gameplay focused instead of well you know trading cards and youtube content creators!

[Endorphinrush3000]

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The whole running game needs to be redone, so many poor ratings. Pickoffs are a bit much too even with the slider all the way down

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[VDusen04]

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Welp, as a first year Show player, this thread has been educational.

I think I was still in the MVP Baseball mindset. I thought at least one extra step was needed to nudge my steal success rate toward favorable.

That said, I can relate to those who still feel the system seems a bit binary. I play on a low difficulty level but even then, an extra step feels like a near automatic death wish. The suggestion seems to be to then not take the extra step, but then I struggle spotting that cat-and-mouse dynamic. It often feels a lot more like, "Try anything outside of this default setup here and you're probably toast."

I appreciate the pro tips you guys are offering though.