Will the lockout effect actually having real players ?

[ninertravel]

I just had a thought the mlb websites can’t have the players photos or likeness. Wouldn’t this be a problem for the game if we get to feb and still no deal of done?? Or has mlb done a deal with sds legally where the players likeness and names can be used ?

[LowerWolf]

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I just had a thought the mlb websites can’t have the players photos or likeness. Wouldn’t this be a problem for the game if we get to feb and still no deal of done?? Or has mlb done a deal with sds legally where the players likeness and names can be used ?

Sony has an agreement with both MLB and the players union, so it should be fine.

[ninertravel]

Re: Will the lockout effect actually having real players ?

Sony has an agreement with both MLB and the players union, so it should be fine.

Oh good wasn’t sure on the legal stuff with this it a lockout changes it

[lemarflacco]

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Oh good wasn’t sure on the legal stuff with this it a lockout changes it

And MLB didnt lose the likenesses, they basically just scrubbed their pages. It'll all be back with one click of a button.

They scan ppl in spring training so if there is a shortened or non existent spring this year, I guess that could effect things

[TheKnack]

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I do think one thing to watch for might be face scans for MLB The Show 22 and MLB The Show 23. SDS gets a ton of their scans during Spring Training and if that is at all cut short or compressed, they may not be able to get the critical time with players they need.

[ninertravel]

Re: Will the lockout effect actually having real players ?

I do think one thing to watch for might be face scans for MLB The Show 22 and MLB The Show 23. SDS gets a ton of their scans during Spring Training and if that is at all cut short or compressed, they may not be able to get the critical time with players they need.

Good point this will suck for the next 2 years with face scans.

but yes MLB network can't even show highlights of a player they are talking about so I thought the game might have some issues here

[Houston]

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If there's still a lockout come release time don't expect any scan faces or player likeness.

Better get used to using Bacons fictional roster because thats what it could be like bunch of generics.

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[mercalnd]

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If there's still a lockout come release time don't expect any scan faces or player likeness.

Better get used to using Bacons fictional roster because thats what it could be like bunch of generics.

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That's not the case at all. SDS still has an MLB AND MLBPA license. The game will have al the real teams and players as usual, lockout or not.

A similar scenario happened with NHL 2005 which came out during a lockout that wiped out the entire NHL season and there was no impact on the game having real teams or players.

[Houston]

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I know more than u give me credit for lol I know all about the MLBPA.

That's not the case at all. SDS still has an MLB AND MLBPA license. The game will have al the real teams and players as usual, lockout or not.

A similar scenario happened with NHL 2005 which came out during a lockout that wiped out the entire NHL season and there was no impact on the game having real teams or players.

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[mercalnd]

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I know more than u give me credit for lol I know all about the MLBPA.

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Then what makes you say the game won't have real players if the lockout is still going on?

[decga]

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Then what makes you say the game won't have real players if the lockout is still going on?

I dreaded this to as well, but so far so good. But there probably are not going to be any roster updates...

[bcruise]

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I don't think we can just automatically use the model the NFL and NBA have followed to predict with certainty how SDS will be able use the league and players' union assets in their game. The thing with MLB being forced to pull player pictures off of the website does concern me somewhat - if the union says they don't want to be associated with MLB in other medias like they did with that site, then what does SDS do?

The reality is that the last time we had an MLB work stoppage was 1994-95, and that was back in the Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball days when no deal with the players union existed. So I think there's reason to be concerned due to uncertainty with how this situation will be handled.

Obviously, the best thing for all involved would be to get a new CBA passed before the season would start.

[mercalnd]

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The thing with MLB being forced to pull player pictures off of the website does concern me somewhat - if the union says they don't want to be associated with MLB in other medias like they did with that site, then what does SDS do?

My understanding is that MLB chose to remove player likenesses from their site, not that they were forced to remove them by the union.

[aholbert32]

Re: Will the lockout effect actually having real players ?

I don't think we can just automatically use the model the NFL and NBA have followed to predict with certainty how SDS will be able use the league and players' union assets in their game. The thing with MLB being forced to pull player pictures off of the website does concern me somewhat - if the union says they don't want to be associated with MLB in other medias like they did with that site, then what does SDS do?

The reality is that the last time we had an MLB work stoppage was 1994-95, and that was back in the Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball days when no deal with the players union existed. So I think there's reason to be concerned due to uncertainty with how this situation will be handled.

Obviously, the best thing for all involved would be to get a new CBA passed before the season would start.

During the last lockout, the NBA did a similar thing. They refused to show any highlights or games featuring active NBA players. NBA 2k still had all of the current players in its game.

MLBPA has a licensing agreement with Sony. If the MLBPA said "we dont want to be associated with MLB", Sony would respond by claiming that MLBPA was attempting to breach its agreement with Sony.

It also would be a dumb move by MLBPA because if for some reason Sony decided to pull all active players from the game, the MLBPA would not receive its license fee.

FYI, there were a number of games that had a MLBPA license in 94. The difference here is that the strike occurred midseason after the games were released.

I dont know the inner workings of the MLBPA/Sony deal but taking away player's video game revenue by demanding that Sony not use active players in its game is ****ing stupid. Especially when most players arent receiving a check during the lockout.

[Caulfield]

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I know there are bound to be technical differences in an ownership lockout of players versus the players strike of '94-'95 but EA's Triple Play 96 was released in March of '95 and the strike didn't end until April of '95 FWIW so I'd tend to think the glass is half full instead of half empty to 2022 spring release. besides, if for some reason April 2022 comes and there is no new CBA, it would probably benefit SDS to having a late April release (though personally I prefer an early March release)