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  • Therebelyell626
    MVP
    • Mar 2018
    • 2883

    #46
    Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

    This all sounds like lip service to me. He says a lot without actually saying anything about what the actual “direction” is for the franchise.

    Every year it’s the same buzzwords “logic improvements” and “under the hood adjustments”. These are great. But he show’s franchise mode is staler than floor mat potato chips. They haven’t tried to innovate in years. While the mode works just fine, it’s the same mode it was 5 years ago and is just not fun to play anymore unless you are one of those people who just plays all 162

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    • GoBlue81188
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 1801

      #47
      Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

      Originally posted by jrp1918
      One thing I'm going to say is people need to stop saying "go play OOTP" when they complain about franchise mode.

      It's not same. Myself, and I assume many others, like the experience of actually playing games with the teams we assembled. Seeing the guys we drafted perform on the field. Their batting stances, throwing motions, etc.

      They're more than numbers on a spreadsheet.

      It's just like whenever people complain about NASCAR games and suggest iRacing. It's not what everyone is looking for and is just straight up unhelpful feedback.

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      Could not agree more. I can't even compare OOTP and MLBTS, the only thing they have in common is it's baseball.

      OOTP is very cool for what it is, but on field experience is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me in any franchise mode.

      I'd also like to see this retort go away with the community.
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      • canes21
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 22903

        #48
        Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

        Originally posted by GamingCeo27
        People also need to remember OOTP can have all minor league systems and all this cause they dont need to focus on graphics for people playing the game.
        I always hate this argument. The OOTP team is much smaller than The Show team. The Show has individual teams that all work on different parts of the game.

        The franchise team doesn't work on gameplay, graphics, audio, etc. Their job is to flesh out franchise mode adding features, improving logics, etc.

        The Show having gameplay on the field isn't an excuse for not having multi-team trades, expand rosters, revamped scouting, revamped progression/ regression, cash considerations, and so on.

        NBA 2k has a franchise mode that is the closest thing to what OOTP has in terms of depth and customization. The Show doesn't have a franchise like OOTP because it has on field gameplay, it's because that isn't their vision for the mode. It's as simple as that.

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        • Bullit
          Bacon is Better
          • Aug 2009
          • 5004

          #49
          Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

          Originally posted by canes21
          I always hate this argument. The OOTP team is much smaller than The Show team. The Show has individual teams that all work on different parts of the game.

          The franchise team doesn't work on gameplay, graphics, audio, etc. Their job is to flesh out franchise mode adding features, improving logics, etc.

          The Show having gameplay on the field isn't an excuse for not having multi-team trades, expand rosters, revamped scouting, revamped progression/ regression, cash considerations, and so on.

          NBA 2k has a franchise mode that is the closest thing to what OOTP has in terms of depth and customization. The Show doesn't have a franchise like OOTP because it has on field gameplay, it's because that isn't their vision for the mode. It's as simple as that.

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          Let us also remember they have taken out a lot more than they have put in. Some of this stuff shows promise I will admit that. But this is not a full price day one pick up anymore for a lot of people and is actually a pretty empty fair unless you partake in the DD/UT Card collecting stuff.
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          • DykstrasTeeth
            Rookie
            • Jan 2020
            • 36

            #50
            Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

            Great, it’s nice they want to improve it 3 years, this just hammers home the fact that sports games are released to frequently, should be releasing a new title every few years, with 20$ roster updates once a year, but I know it’s profit over product

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            • ninertravel
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 4831

              #51
              Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

              Originally posted by DykstrasTeeth
              Great, it’s nice they want to improve it 3 years, this just hammers home the fact that sports games are released to frequently, should be releasing a new title every few years, with 20$ roster updates once a year, but I know it’s profit over product
              Agree but they can't do this as per contract with NFL MLB or whoever it is they have to release it per year.

              I would be all for a sports game coming out every 3 years with just roster updates.

              problem is MUT and DD modes as well they would lost millions of dollars by skipping 2 years of those mobile modes.

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              • EmmdotFrisk
                Pro
                • Oct 2009
                • 657

                #52
                Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                Originally posted by knich1
                I was starting to wonder if Nick was still with SDS. I don't care for the faceless deep dive videos.

                Excellent interview. Unfortunately, he forgot to ask about SOTS...
                Apologies! Let me see if I can ask to see if he'll sneak in an after interview freebie.
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                • EmmdotFrisk
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 657

                  #53
                  Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  I enjoyed the interview and look forward to more and even though Nick seems like a good guy and the kind of person you'd genuinely enjoy drinking a beer with, I still don't really know anymore about the direction and vision of franchise today than I did yesterday lol

                  I guess what I do know is it is the Studio's intention is to keep including franchise and improving it for the foreseeable future however long that is whatever that may include and that will be kosher w/me
                  I respect this take. I will say I learned something really big that I had a hunch about but I think it's still a bit confusing. I'm considering making a video to try and find a way to say bluntly what Nick is really saying. And beware, I'm not sure we are all going to be happy with the answer but it at least is something to look forward too. I made this graphic last year on a hunch but after talking with Nick I'm 100% sure this is what they are doing...

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                  • ripcandlestickpark
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1175

                    #54
                    Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                    Originally posted by EmmdotFrisk
                    Apologies! Let me see if I can ask to see if he'll sneak in an after interview freebie.

                    That's very cool of you, Frisk! Much appreciated.

                    I know it's not a Franchise feature per se, but Sounds of The Show is still very much beloved by the offline community in general. It'd be nice to hear a dev acknowledge the passionate fanbase it has. If Nick could actually speak to its possible future/re-introduction as well, that would be gravy.
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                    • Karle
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 820

                      #55
                      Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                      Frisk,

                      That graphic looks like a great objective for the MTO/Franchise.

                      As far as using MTO with custom rosters that ought to work. Presumably MTO scales objectives based on how your team measures up against the other 29. Such scaling happens even with custom rosters.

                      As far as Y2Y franchise saves, I can understand how changes to Franchise under the hood could make such saves not possible. Also, in regard to Y2Y roster saves I could also understand how expanding the roster sizes would make that not possible between MLB 20 and 21. However, unless changes were again made in the size or composition of rosters, I really do not understand why it was necessary to not allow Y2y saves of rosters between 21 and 22.

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                      • LegendKillerOne
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                        • Jan 2019
                        • 1764

                        #56
                        Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                        Am I the only one who watched the interview and came through it feeling very optimistic about the future of franchise mode?

                        They have no reason to dumb it.
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52704

                          #57
                          Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                          Originally posted by GamingCeo27
                          Am I the only one who watched the interview and came through it feeling very optimistic about the future of franchise mode?

                          They have no reason to dumb it.
                          No...I'm liking the approach they are taking although I do wish that it didn't nullify Y2Y saves, but thus far I'll take the tradeoff.

                          What they are doing now is something they were going to have to tackle at some point for the quality of life of franchise mode. I'd rather them do it now, before they start advancing the mode, as its been long overdue.
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                          • MetsFan16
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1416

                            #58
                            Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                            Originally posted by GamingCeo27
                            Am I the only one who watched the interview and came through it feeling very optimistic about the future of franchise mode?



                            They have no reason to dumb it.


                            It’s a step in the right direction. Past few years have been all about how to simulate games easier (phases, quick manage). Under the hood fixed have been necessary but I wish to see more impactful improvements in the coming years.


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                            • LegendKillerOne
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                              • Jan 2019
                              • 1764

                              #59
                              Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              No...I'm liking the approach they are taking although I do wish that it didn't nullify Y2Y saves, but thus far I'll take the tradeoff.

                              What they are doing now is something they were going to have to tackle at some point for the quality of life of franchise mode. I'd rather them do it now, before they start advancing the mode, as its been long overdue.

                              Exactly and on top of it factor in new announcers to give it some fresh. Very solid
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                              • LegendKillerOne
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                                • Jan 2019
                                • 1764

                                #60
                                Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                                Originally posted by MetsFan16
                                It’s a step in the right direction. Past few years have been all about how to simulate games easier (phases, quick manage). Under the hood fixed have been necessary but I wish to see more impactful improvements in the coming years.


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                                I think we are headed in the right direction
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