MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

[ripcandlestickpark]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

If MtO gives SDS the easier code foundation to build on for Franchise, I sort of empathize with that. However, if that is indeed the long-term plan, then the pace of improvements/customization options for that mode needs to pick up. I mean, this is year four of the mode and we still can't even use custom rosters in it, which for me (and I'm sure this is the case for more than a few others) makes the mode dead-on-arrival.

I've long-maintained that MtO/Season Modes are better fits for classic roster use than a traditional Franchise save. It's a shame that that's still not possible for MtO.

[Therebelyell626]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

This is why I assume MtO has to be the franchise mode of the future, they simply don't have it fleshed out enough yet to remove the franchise mode that is in the game.

MtO is on the new foundation that's easier to add to. They've confirmed that.

Franchise mode is on a legacy foundation that is difficult to work with. They've confirmed that.

Both modes are essentially franchise modes, or team management modes as they call them. Having both longterm makes absolutely zero sense.

I don't see any other logic as to why they're doing what they're doing other than they're working towards building MtO up to the point it can be played like it is now or like franchise mode can be played now. Once that is possible I imagine franchise mode is removed in name only and we are left with a MtO mode that can be played like it is now or like a traditional franchise mode.

Then from that point on we should expect the mode to continue to progress as it is literally being built on a new foundation that's easier to add to, their words.

This is all assumptions, though, because they refuse to clear anything up.

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That’s a good perspective. Never really thought about it that way

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

This is why I assume MtO has to be the franchise mode of the future, they simply don't have it fleshed out enough yet to remove the franchise mode that is in the game.

MtO is on the new foundation that's easier to add to. They've confirmed that.

Franchise mode is on a legacy foundation that is difficult to work with. They've confirmed that.

Both modes are essentially franchise modes, or team management modes as they call them. Having both longterm makes absolutely zero sense.

I don't see any other logic as to why they're doing what they're doing other than they're working towards building MtO up to the point it can be played like it is now or like franchise mode can be played now. Once that is possible I imagine franchise mode is removed in name only and we are left with a MtO mode that can be played like it is now or like a traditional franchise mode.

Then from that point on we should expect the mode to continue to progress as it is literally being built on a new foundation that's easier to add to, their words.

This is all assumptions, though, because they refuse to clear anything up.

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I'm not a programmer by any means but my work's IT Dept mentions our platforms now are modern and we can customize it easier than our older programming.

But like another poster said that this is the 4th year already for MTO and we aren't able customize much yet. But I'm sure when they built franchise that was the modern platform. And now there is a more modern platform that they are using for MTO. By the time they get everything on MTO (if they do), will that platform be obsolete like franchise is now?

Granted, maybe now we will see more aggressive movement on MTO than a couple of years ago if they do have a direction on where they want to go.

[LegendKillerOne]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

Have any of you ever seen an ejection in franchise mode take place and if so how do i get one to happen? Like arguing balls and strikes and such or any from people beaning someone?

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

Have any of you ever seen an ejection in franchise mode take place and if so how do i get one to happen? Like arguing balls and strikes and such or any from people beaning someone?

I believe it is only from intentionally throwing at someone

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[IndianSummer]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

Back a long time ago, you could get ejected from arguing at call at first base if my memory serves me correctly.

[tessl]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

This is why I assume MtO has to be the franchise mode of the future, they simply don't have it fleshed out enough yet to remove the franchise mode that is in the game.

MtO is on the new foundation that's easier to add to. They've confirmed that.

Franchise mode is on a legacy foundation that is difficult to work with. They've confirmed that.

Both modes are essentially franchise modes, or team management modes as they call them. Having both longterm makes absolutely zero sense.

I don't see any other logic as to why they're doing what they're doing other than they're working towards building MtO up to the point it can be played like it is now or like franchise mode can be played now. Once that is possible I imagine franchise mode is removed in name only and we are left with a MtO mode that can be played like it is now or like a traditional franchise mode.

Then from that point on we should expect the mode to continue to progress as it is literally being built on a new foundation that's easier to add to, their words.

This is all assumptions, though, because they refuse to clear anything up.

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I've never understood the season mode people. Why not just play franchise for one season?

I suspect you are correct. The lack of work on franchise is glaring. Trade logic and a dumbed down budget for the math challenged are the changes. They will move to a more shallow MTO and call it franchise. Failure to include year to year saves which they already have the code for is glaring.


As for the claim that input needs to be more detailed I've submitted bug reports with very detailed problems with manage mode - specifically the cpu taking over for the cpu manager on some occasions - and nothing gets changed. Simple things like typos in the menu are ignored after bug reports.

I'd prefer to see MTO eliminated and put those developers in franchise but I suspect they are moving in the opposite direction. Fortunately franchise made it to the ps5 platform and I'll continue to play mlbts21.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

I've never understood the season mode people. Why not just play franchise for one season?

I suspect you are correct. The lack of work on franchise is glaring. Trade logic and a dumbed down budget for the math challenged are the changes. They will move to a more shallow MTO and call it franchise. Failure to include year to year saves which they already have the code for is glaring.


As for the claim that input needs to be more detailed I've submitted bug reports with very detailed problems with manage mode - specifically the cpu taking over for the cpu manager on some occasions - and nothing gets changed. Simple things like typos in the menu are ignored after bug reports.

I'd prefer to see MTO eliminated and put those developers in franchise but I suspect they are moving in the opposite direction. Fortunately franchise made it to the ps5 platform and I'll continue to play mlbts21.

Because season mode also allowed you to set 82 games or even shorter (don’t remember the other season lengths exactly) For those who like to “own” their stats and not sim any games.




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[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

I've never understood the season mode people. Why not just play franchise for one season?

I suspect you are correct. The lack of work on franchise is glaring. Trade logic and a dumbed down budget for the math challenged are the changes. They will move to a more shallow MTO and call it franchise. Failure to include year to year saves which they already have the code for is glaring.


As for the claim that input needs to be more detailed I've submitted bug reports with very detailed problems with manage mode - specifically the cpu taking over for the cpu manager on some occasions - and nothing gets changed. Simple things like typos in the menu are ignored after bug reports.

I'd prefer to see MTO eliminated and put those developers in franchise but I suspect they are moving in the opposite direction. Fortunately franchise made it to the ps5 platform and I'll continue to play mlbts21.

“Dumbed down budget for the math challenged”

Actually the budget is the most realistic this year versus any previous version. And many have complained it’s cumbersome versus “dumbed down “

And I’m not quite sure you understand the complexity of Y2Y saves. It’s not simply a code



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[Funkycorm]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

I've never understood the season mode people. Why not just play franchise for one season?

I suspect you are correct. The lack of work on franchise is glaring. Trade logic and a dumbed down budget for the math challenged are the changes. They will move to a more shallow MTO and call it franchise. Failure to include year to year saves which they already have the code for is glaring.


As for the claim that input needs to be more detailed I've submitted bug reports with very detailed problems with manage mode - specifically the cpu taking over for the cpu manager on some occasions - and nothing gets changed. Simple things like typos in the menu are ignored after bug reports.

I'd prefer to see MTO eliminated and put those developers in franchise but I suspect they are moving in the opposite direction. Fortunately franchise made it to the ps5 platform and I'll continue to play mlbts21.

Though I don't really miss it since I didn't use it, season mode had several advantages. One, you could set season length. This is important to some. Second, you only had 40 man rosters and didn't have to worry about injuries in the farm system. Third, it is great for single season historical replays as some of those rosters only have 26-40 active players and the rest are fake.

All it boils down to is each their own.

And just because they have the code for y2y (which I miss) doesn't mean it can be easily applied each year. I am sure that under the hood changes impact this and it was mentioned somewhere it was hard to code. There is likely also more to it than copy and paste code.

[Unlucky 13]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

Back a long time ago, you could get ejected from arguing at call at first base if my memory serves me correctly.

I was going to say the same thing. It might have been a while, but this was absolutely in the game. Managers would get thrown out, and another coach would be pointed out as having taken over for the rest of the game.

It might have been since the PS3 days that this was a feature, though.

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

I was going to say the same thing. It might have been a while, but this was absolutely in the game. Managers would get thrown out, and another coach would be pointed out as having taken over for the rest of the game.

It might have been since the PS3 days that this was a feature, though.

I still play Show 14 (ps4 version) and ejections are in 14. you can turn them on/off in the general game settings. I'll check to see if they are in 15 then 16 then 17 and so on

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

There was one game long time ago that if you push X to raise the level. The higher it goes the higher chance you get thrown out. If you get thrown out, you wouldn’t be able to manage your bullpen in that game.

[tessl]

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“Dumbed down budget for the math challenged”

Actually the budget is the most realistic this year versus any previous version. And many have complained it’s cumbersome versus “dumbed down “

And I’m not quite sure you understand the complexity of Y2Y saves. It’s not simply a code



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It appears to be a way to gimmick your budget if minor leaguers don't count toward the budget.

They are moving in the direction is a simplistic franchise mode which I suppose appeals to a lot of people who don't want to replicate MLB.

[kehlis]

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It appears to be a way to gimmick your budget if minor leaguers don't count toward the budget.

They are moving in the direction is a simplistic franchise mode which I suppose appeals to a lot of people who don't want to replicate MLB.

I don't suppose you plan on replying to any of the other many responses you got about your question that also make a lot of sense for why people like season mode?