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  • LastActionHero
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 2453

    #1

    Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

    I like analog throwing since they introduced it but
    they completely neglected it after they introduced button accuracy. I mean there’s no perfect throw indicator or the meter when you want to gun someone down with your catcher.
    While I want to prefer analog throwing I switched to button accuracy for all the extra’s you get.

    What if SDS combines the button accuracy meter with analog throwing meter? It would work just the same as button accuracy, you just release the analog stick when the meter reaches the middle of the meter. It also makes it easier to see the deviation when pointing to a base. If you keep throwing a little bit offline to 1st base you can see your holding it to long for example. Now it’s a wild guess.

    Any analog throwers out there that fiel the same?
    "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."
  • stealyerface
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 1803

    #2
    Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

    Yes, a small wedge that showed the path of your RStick input, similar to the feedback you get from pin point pitching.

    Ball is fielded, Analog input from user, and the result.

    The WOI (wedge of influence) as I have called it for years in multiple write ups, would be based on the fielders’ ratings and the user’s inputs.

    In the wedge, there would be a strip of green, which represents a perfect throw. On the top and bottom of that perfect green strip would be orange or yellow, showing a throw that wasn’t perfect, but not necessarily an automatic error.

    The size of the green vs secondary colors, would be based on the ratings, allowing a larger WOI for higher rated fielders.

    Fun and intuitive, and a lot more interactive than pressing a button.

    Until then, let’s just see if we can get the “Off” setting on the throwing meter to actually be off. It would be like shutting the “Strike Zone” graphic off, then returning to the game and it is still on…

    Let’s hope for an update that at least allows the Analog Throwing to be usable.
    ~syf


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    • LastActionHero
      MVP
      • Feb 2009
      • 2453

      #3
      Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

      I guess the majority uses button accuracy haha. Not much traction here.
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      • stealyerface
        MVP
        • Feb 2004
        • 1803

        #4
        Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

        I gathered that as well…

        But I have used Analog Throwing since they introduced it. Believe me, if there was a major hurdle/break/glitch with the directional hitting or zone hitting and our response to the glitch was ,” Duh, use analog swing with no auto stride, duh”… there would be plenty of traction…

        All I am hoping for is for SDS to make “off” on the meter actually be “off. We can work on new throwing stuff later on.
        ~syf


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        • cubby blue
          Pro
          • Mar 2012
          • 620

          #5
          Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

          I used analog throwing too. Since it messed up this year, I have switched to buttons.

          Anybody having trouble throwing to cut off man? I'm holding the L1 button and throwing to desired base, but it always throws to the bases.
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          • ChiTownKid
            MVP
            • Oct 2002
            • 1002

            #6
            Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

            Originally posted by cubby blue
            I used analog throwing too. Since it messed up this year, I have switched to buttons.

            Anybody having trouble throwing to cut off man? I'm holding the L1 button and throwing to desired base, but it always throws to the bases.
            Press L1 first to throw to the cut-off. While the ball is in flight to the cut-off, press the button to the desired base.


            I don't think holding L1 while you press a button for a specific base will work.
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            • cubby blue
              Pro
              • Mar 2012
              • 620

              #7
              Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

              Originally posted by ChiTownKid
              Press L1 first to throw to the cut-off. While the ball is in flight to the cut-off, press the button to the desired base.


              I don't think holding L1 while you press a button for a specific base will work.
              Ok I will try that, thanks my man..
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              • Gramps91
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2116

                #8
                Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

                Personally, I like button throwing better, I guess I'm probably in the majority. A lot of sports games have tried to do innovative stuff with analog sticks and I'm not usually a fan. It's like with NBA 2k, I never liked analog shooting and in the WWE SVR games I hated when they had analog grapple controls.
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                • LastActionHero
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2453

                  #9
                  Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

                  Originally posted by Gramps91
                  Personally, I like button throwing better, I guess I'm probably in the majority. A lot of sports games have tried to do innovative stuff with analog sticks and I'm not usually a fan. It's like with NBA 2k, I never liked analog shooting and in the WWE SVR games I hated when they had analog grapple controls.

                  I get what you mean but for me the analog sticks just mimic a (baseball) throw better than buttons. Buttons are just too easy, I never make an error. I wish they would change it back to where you could adjust the fielding separately.
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                  • Gramps91
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 2116

                    #10
                    Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

                    Originally posted by LastActionHero
                    I get what you mean but for me the analog sticks just mimic a (baseball) throw better than buttons. Buttons are just too easy, I never make an error. I wish they would change it back to where you could adjust the fielding separately.
                    Options are always a good thing. I probably prefer the button because it is easier. I'm not exactly a gaming ace.
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                    • stealyerface
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1803

                      #11
                      Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

                      Well, I was never one of those “this is a game killer”, or “I’m not playing this game anymore until they fix *insert major issue here*….

                      Analog throwing is an absolute dumpster fire. I’m not talking about grass that doesn’t have individual blades rendered in real-time atmospheric physics. I’m not talking about the beak of the Blue Jay in the Roger’s Centre having an underbite that “ruins the immersion”.

                      I am talking about a option of throwing the ball on defense, having no option to use it successfully. I played a game this morning, with the throwing error sliders at 0, and had seven throwing errors in one game. Blown double plays, easy grounders, a grounder to second thrown into the stands… it is now a MFJ.

                      If there is an option to turn something off, it ought to be able to be turned off. Even the explanation is broken “when toggled off, the meter is still on”. WTFF?

                      Yeah, yeah, I’ll just switch to buttons, and move on with my life but that isn’t the point.

                      Guys that use auto throwing would be beside themselves if when they chose “Auto Throwing”, the game didn’t recognize that choice.

                      How about turning auto-baserunning to “on”, meant “when auto-baserunning is selected, there will be no auto-baserunning”

                      Better yet, Classic Pitching, a fan favorite. When you chose to use that, you got Pulse Pitching instead.

                      Either fix the options that are supposedly available or remove them.

                      ~syf






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                      • stealyerface
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1803

                        #12
                        Re: Why no analog (throwing) fielding love

                        ****Update****

                        So, analog throwing has not been fixed, and is still just flat-out broken.

                        Ahh, but fear not my manual throwing friends, as sometimes by accident, we stumble upon a better path.

                        Button Accuracy. That is all. What’s that you say? Throw Accuracy based on user input as well as fielder ratings, all wrapped up in one?

                        The better your fielder’s rating, the larger the sweet spot for an accurate throw. The better your position when you field the ball, the larger the sweet spot for accuracy. Late in the game, you press the button just a little too long in a moment of nervousness, maybe that error costs you the game.

                        Use the new practice mode to get used to your new favorite throwing method, and maybe you’ll go back to analog throwing when it gets fixed.

                        Maybe not.
                        ~syf


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