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  • bobeureally27
    Pro
    • Jun 2005
    • 760

    #1

    Pitches in the dirt

    Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the AI reacts instantly to pitches in the dirt, while the player faces a delay.

    As soon as the ball hits the dirt, AI runners take off, regardless of speed. Sometimes, I’m able to recover and throw them out. Other times, not so much.

    This has been a problem in this game for years and it’s hard to believe it hasn’t been fixed.


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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52760

    #2
    Re: Pitches in the dirt

    I've had runners stay put when I put one in the dirt and I've also been able to throw them out at times depending on their speed, the catcher, and where the ball gets to.

    Not seeing anything in my experience that I would consider an issue.
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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #3
      Re: Pitches in the dirt

      my biggest gear-grinder regarding dirt pitches is
      one, I can't not swing at 'em,
      and two, I can't hit 'em when I do swing at 'em
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      • TripleCrown
        MVP
        • Jan 2013
        • 1240

        #4
        Re: Pitches in the dirt

        Originally posted by countryboy
        I've had runners stay put when I put one in the dirt and I've also been able to throw them out at times depending on their speed, the catcher, and where the ball gets to.

        Not seeing anything in my experience that I would consider an issue.
        Used to be the case in MLB20 and before but since then MLB21 i saw many times what you just described. Think they probably entered the catcher’s arm & reaction in the equation instead of just the runner speed.

        @bobeureally27 , what’s your catcher arm,reaction rating ?

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        • TripleCrown
          MVP
          • Jan 2013
          • 1240

          #5
          Re: Pitches in the dirt

          Originally posted by Caulfield
          my biggest gear-grinder regarding dirt pitches is
          one, I can't not swing at 'em,
          and two, I can't hit 'em when I do swing at 'em
          Loll…you brought back Chris Davis or what ?

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          • bobeureally27
            Pro
            • Jun 2005
            • 760

            #6
            Re: Pitches in the dirt

            Originally posted by TripleCrown
            Used to be the case in MLB20 and before but since then MLB21 i saw many times what you just described. Think they probably entered the catcher’s arm & reaction in the equation instead of just the runner speed.

            @bobeureally27 , what’s your catcher arm,reaction rating ?

            Not sure, but it’s Christian Vazquez, so…good ratings.

            This threads was prompted by me throwing out runners in consecutive innings. Ons of them was Cedric Mullins, which I can understand, but the other was a slower runner who had no business trying to advance.


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            • IndianSummer
              Pro
              • Oct 2020
              • 751

              #7
              Re: Pitches in the dirt

              Originally posted by Caulfield
              my biggest gear-grinder regarding dirt pitches is
              one, I can't not swing at 'em,
              and two, I can't hit 'em when I do swing at 'em
              Sometimes I have that problem as well, and not one damn 7 iron in the bat rack either.
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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #8
                Re: Pitches in the dirt

                Originally posted by TripleCrown
                Loll…you brought back Chris Davis or what ?
                I should, after all, he is still under contract until 2037, basically lol

                also, what I really need is a visual cue that a particular pitch is most likely dirt-bound
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                • TripleCrown
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1240

                  #9
                  Re: Pitches in the dirt

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  I should, after all, he is still under contract until 2037, basically lol

                  also, what I really need is a visual cue that a particular pitch is most likely dirt-bound
                  I’m using 2 cameras derived from RETRO cam. Main one where strike zone is more or less centered and a second one when I’m facing a pitcher with low pitches arsenal like tons of change up or splitters.

                  That second one having the strike zone a bit higher than the other one ( or cam lower if you prefer). I found it a lot easier to detect those low pitches that way.

                  Only thing is I find high fastball more difficult. That’s the why I’m swapping cam based on pitcher style.

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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #10
                    Re: Pitches in the dirt

                    Originally posted by TripleCrown
                    I’m using 2 cameras derived from RETRO cam. Main one where strike zone is more or less centered and a second one when I’m facing a pitcher with low pitches arsenal like tons of change up or splitters.

                    That second one having the strike zone a bit higher than the other one ( or cam lower if you prefer). I found it a lot easier to detect those low pitches that way.

                    Only thing is I find high fastball more difficult. That’s the why I’m swapping cam based on pitcher style.
                    that's genius. I don't know why it never occurred to me to have camera angles crafted according to different pitcher types. I always just wanted the widest camera available, wide enough to see both fair poles. sounds simple, but effective. those nasty overhand 12-6 curves eat me up, especially when they only go 58 feet. this could completely change the way I think about hitting. for years I've lived and died with my pitching but if my hitting was equal to my pitching, I bet I could rival Joe Torres Yankees dynasty lol

                    thanks TC!
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