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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #16
    Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

    Originally posted by tmoneymill3114
    This makes no sense as its a competitve game, user vs user. There is baseball strategy to looking high fast ball and reacting to the pitch. Real hitters dont swing in same location and hope thats where the pitch is.
    Timing only is for RBI...and NES games.
    the pci is pretty much your bat, you need to make contact with the bat to hit the ball. I can just time fast ball every time and anytime its a fastball i rake no matter the location.

    Did you ever even play baseball at any level?? even grade school

    Right....they need to get rid of the pitch cursor too....pitchers don't get some magical indicator that shows exactly where they are aiming. And catch indicators/throw meters - not realistic for a comp environment either.

    While we're at it, strike zone cam for pitching makes no sense either....in real baseball, pitchers don't throw from the batter's view.
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    • tmoneymill3114
      Rookie
      • Jul 2016
      • 18

      #17
      Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

      Originally posted by countryboy
      Absolutely, unequivocally false.

      You need to hop down from your pedestal and understand how timing hitting actually works in the game.
      Ya, timing works by timing the pitch. Just like directional, if you dont try and influence the swing the CPU overrides pci placement. I dont think you know what youre talking about. power swing and hold up and hope.

      so yes, if im throwing 99mph fastballs on the corner and all you have to do is time it to get + results, that takes away the chess game of an actual pitcher batter matchup. Theres no way around that. Like i said, for competitive setting it shouldnt even be an option.

      friendlies and non ranked games, have at it.

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      • tmoneymill3114
        Rookie
        • Jul 2016
        • 18

        #18
        Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

        Originally posted by JoshC1977
        Right....they need to get rid of the pitch cursor too....pitchers don't get some magical indicator that shows exactly where they are aiming. And catch indicators/throw meters - not realistic for a comp environment either.

        While we're at it, strike zone cam for pitching makes no sense either....in real baseball, pitchers don't throw from the batter's view.
        my pitch cursor disappears. I dont use strike zone cam either for pitching. next... Those dont give a competitive advantage as both players have the same thing, meters and catch indicators....

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        • DonkeyJote
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 9202

          #19
          Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

          Originally posted by tmoneymill3114
          Exactly...zone users have TIME the pitch and LOCATE the pitch at the same time. User vs user should be based off stick skills and not CPU doing half of it. Do you just hike it in madden and let the CPU take over??
          Except the timing is drastically easier using Zone. Seriously. Try using timing for a few games vs zone. Zone is easier than timing.


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          • tmoneymill3114
            Rookie
            • Jul 2016
            • 18

            #20
            Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
            Except the timing is drastically easier using Zone. Seriously. Try using timing for a few games vs zone. Zone is easier than timing.


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            drastically?? not having to worry about pitch location takes away half the pitcher vs batter battle. If im throwing high fastballs and striking you out, or throwin the same pitch to a location consistently. A hitter will look for the ball in that location. With timing only he doesnt have to and can just be like, well im gonna swing for fastball here and be rewarded. regardless of pitch location in the zone.

            do you use auto aim on online shooters too??? let the CPU handle everything after the snap in madden? im not even saying remove it from game, im saying remove it from being an online competitive option.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52844

              #21
              Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

              Originally posted by tmoneymill3114
              Ya, timing works by timing the pitch. Just like directional, if you dont try and influence the swing the CPU overrides pci placement. I dont think you know what youre talking about. power swing and hold up and hope.

              so yes, if im throwing 99mph fastballs on the corner and all you have to do is time it to get + results, that takes away the chess game of an actual pitcher batter matchup. Theres no way around that. Like i said, for competitive setting it shouldnt even be an option.

              friendlies and non ranked games, have at it.
              Play a game using timing hitting with everything else as it is for zone hitting and let us know how it goes.

              Of course if you didn't do it 3 years ago, not sure why I should expect you to now

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              • bobeureally27
                Pro
                • Jun 2005
                • 760

                #22
                Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                Countryboy has the receipts!

                And again, if timing is such an advantage, why won’t the OP make the switch? Hmmmmmm….


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                • DonkeyJote
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 9202

                  #23
                  Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                  Originally posted by tmoneymill3114
                  drastically?? not having to worry about pitch location takes away half the pitcher vs batter battle. If im throwing high fastballs and striking you out, or throwin the same pitch to a location consistently. A hitter will look for the ball in that location. With timing only he doesnt have to and can just be like, well im gonna swing for fastball here and be rewarded. regardless of pitch location in the zone.



                  do you use auto aim on online shooters too??? let the CPU handle everything after the snap in madden? im not even saying remove it from game, im saying remove it from being an online competitive option.
                  Just try it and then come back and tell us how you do.

                  Funny enough, with timing you have to be much more patient and disciplined because you aren't going to often make solid contact on pitches on the edge, especially early in the count. You absolutely still have to be aware of the location, because the location determines the timing (moreso on timing because the timing is so much more sensitive).

                  I don't use auto aim in shooters, no. Because aiming is a part of shooting. Aiming isn't a part of hitting. Zone hitting doesn't at all replicate hitting, imo. It more replicates catching the ball. It's gimmicky.

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                  • Funkycorm
                    Cleveland Baseball Guru
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3159

                    #24
                    Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                    Lol.

                    I don't play online but you don't rake with timing/directional.

                    Go to the slider thread and check out the feedback on various sliders that use directional or timing and you will see results that contradict what you are presenting that timing/directional is a guaranteed hit.
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                    • mercalnd
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 4263

                      #25
                      Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                      Seems like the OP assumes that the cpu controlled pci will always be right on the ball with timing only hitting, which is absolutely not the case.

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                      • shark547
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 666

                        #26
                        Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                        Ummm....I barely miss perfect timing and my game is basically a pop up simulator....on balls right down the middle....lol

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                        • IndianSummer
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2020
                          • 767

                          #27
                          Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                          Not to mention the numerous times that you have good timing and it is still a swing and a miss.
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                          • canes21
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22945

                            #28
                            Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                            Originally posted by mercalnd
                            Seems like the OP assumes that the cpu controlled pci will always be right on the ball with timing only hitting, which is absolutely not the case.
                            This is all that ever needed to be said.

                            With Timing, and Directional, the ratings dictate how accurate the PCI placement is. So if you hit with Joey Gallo and time 20 pitches perfectly, he will swing and miss or make poor contact more often than if you were hitting with Tony Gwynn.

                            However, if you use Zone, you as the user literally control the PCI every single swing and if you're skilled enough you could literally make a player like Gallo never swing and miss which gives you a ridiculous advantage over anyone not using Zone.

                            OP is likely losing games online and looking for an excuse to comfort himself.

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                            • jrp1918
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 235

                              #29
                              Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                              Timing isn't new. Pure analog was just timing and it's been in the game for years.

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                              • DonkeyJote
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 9202

                                #30
                                Re: This game is ruined by timing only online as setting

                                Originally posted by jrp1918
                                Timing isn't new. Pure analog was just timing and it's been in the game for years.

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                                It's a little different, just because with Pure Analog (or timing with analog swing) you're still influencing PCI placement with the angle you move the RS.

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