SDS Default Rosters=Train Wreck

[ltw0303cavs]

SDS lack of detail in their default rosters is just a complete joke. Example Richie Palacios , Indians prospect=30 Grade Defense..SDS rates him in the 70's. Nick Allen A's prospect one of the best defensive prospects in-game..50 defensive ratings. Players having DD plus 99 ratings in default rosters, relievers with 77 stamina. It just goes on and on. Next-Gen with all of the added memory/space and Last names choices same as old gen. I mean when do we demand more, instead of SDS just taking your money ? Literally, when is enough...enough?

[strosdood]

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What’s weirder to me is that Palacios is also considered the better prospect on the game [emoji848]


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[Caulfield]

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...I mean when do we demand more, instead of SDS just taking your money ? Literally, when is enough...enough?

enough is enough the very minute you start to ask the question. I mean, there's no way in blue hell Sony can take my money if I don't first willingly give. I definitely wouldn't buy Show 23 if Show 22 wasn't up to snuff. and I wouldn't bought 22 if 21 hadn't did it for me.

I hate having to do it but I have to tweak the the default roster a tonne before I can even begin to think to play. thankfully my majority playing is franchise offline so as cumbersome an ordeal as it is, it's doable

[forme95]

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The default roster as far as gameplay far exceeds these over inflated "realistic" made rosters or live update ones. I believe that is half the reason players get slideritis. Not to mention that everyone out there thinks they have the 99 ovr rated prospect(s). It may not be name accurate, or equipment accurate, but gameplay is far better with less adjustment.

To each it's own. If you are looking for real world accuracy, then have at it. In the end, it's your game and your universe.
Just my .02 cents.

[bronxbombers21325]

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The default roster as far as gameplay far exceeds these over inflated "realistic" made rosters or live update ones. I believe that is half the reason players get slideritis. Not to mention that everyone out there thinks they have the 99 ovr rated prospect(s). It may not be name accurate, or equipment accurate, but gameplay is far better with less adjustment.

To each it's own. If you are looking for real world accuracy, then have at it. In the end, it's your game and your universe.
Just my .02 cents.

To me the game is meant to be played with the SDS rosters. Seems like the really weird stuff in franchise happens when you have the downloaded roster sets. Other than a few CAP that wasn’t included in the last roster update, I use the SDS rosters.

[DonkeyJote]

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I also prefer using default rosters, or "custom" rosters that use SDS's player ratings.

I also update player ratings in my franchise to coincide with SDS's updates. It helps curb my tendency to want to restart because a player is having a big season. So if SDS gives a guy +5 power vs RHP, I give him the +5 power too.

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[bronxbombers21325]

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I also prefer using default rosters, or "custom" rosters that use SDS's player ratings.

I also update player ratings in my franchise to coincide with SDS's updates. It helps curb my tendency to want to restart because a player is having a big season. So if SDS gives a guy +5 power vs RHP, I give him the +5 power too.

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I don’t use any of the SDS rosters after they start tinkering with ratings. I’m using basically the opening day update with all the transactions, but no ratings changes. I don’t like what happens in my franchise to be influenced by what is happening this year, if that makes sense. The only ratings I will do are of players that made the MLB rosters out of camp. Like I gave Julio Rodriguez, Matt Brash, Steven Kwan, and Hunter Greene ratings increases so they would be on the MLB roster to start the season in franchise. I downloaded CAP for Cano, Ken Giles, Dee Strange-Gordon, Anibal Sanchez, and Christian Bethencourt, and that is all I plan to do, other than equipment updates when it’s finally all released, hopefully this week.

[jrp1918]

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The default roster as far as gameplay far exceeds these over inflated "realistic" made rosters or live update ones. I believe that is half the reason players get slideritis. Not to mention that everyone out there thinks they have the 99 ovr rated prospect(s). It may not be name accurate, or equipment accurate, but gameplay is far better with less adjustment.



To each it's own. If you are looking for real world accuracy, then have at it. In the end, it's your game and your universe.

Just my .02 cents.

I 100% agree. The prospects on any of those rosters are wildly overrated.

Most prospects don't pan out. And Nick Allen being a 60 and a non-factor is a far more likely outcome than the full minors roster from last year that had him at like a 70 with B potential.

People seem to think that every guy in their teams top 30 list is gonna be a major league regular when it's not even true for the top 100 list in the league.


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[Therebelyell626]

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I 100% agree. The prospects on any of those rosters are wildly overrated.

Most prospects don't pan out. And Nick Allen being a 60 and a non-factor is a far more likely outcome than the full minors roster from last year that had him at like a 70 with B potential.

People seem to think that every guy in their teams top 30 list is gonna be a major league regular when it's not even true for the top 100 list in the league.


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Agreed. This is the first year I actually have been able to roll with the default roster. Nick Allen will probably develop in to a utility player at best. Yes his glove in real life is probably better than SDS rates it, but I don’t need a the roster in franchise to be over inflated with capable major leaguers. This year for the first time I am seeing so much more variance in prospect development curves and I like it. I use to never value prospects with D potential, but now those prospects with a potential of 67-69 are very serviceable options if you develop them properly. It makes C and B and even more so A prospects so much more valuable as they should be

[hockeyyt988]

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To me the game is meant to be played with the SDS rosters. Seems like the really weird stuff in franchise happens when you have the downloaded roster sets. Other than a few CAP that wasn’t included in the last roster update, I use the SDS rosters.

I've taken this approach this year. I started a Mets Franchise with Full Minors in MLB 18 and was in year 6 on MLB 20 before buying 22 at launch.

If you look at the studs in that franchise, many were high potential guys in the top 100 in 2018 but aren't nearly that in the real-life MLB.

This is no knock on Full-Minors. They do incredible, amazing work but whether it's SDS, Full Minors and any other rosters creator's work, they can only base of the top prospects today. Next years list will be different.

The ratings were designed by SDS and therefore, I agree, I don't want to ticker with that too much as it may impact stats, call ups, all that stuff in ways I don't want.

The older I get, the more I'm learning to embrace that. Even if that means I don't have that one real-life stud that shot onto the scene this year in my franchise.

The fun of franchise to me is getting into the team building aspect. Seeing your draft prospects pan (or not pan) out. The second I start a new franchise, it's different then real-life MLB and I've spent too much time in years past worrying about that.

I started a Cubs Franchise and downloaded AntOrtiz rosters, which I believe were more so minor roster management and such rather then re-rating players. It was literally a day old when I downloaded so safe to say there wasn't many changes from the SDS base. I have no plans to restart as I'm just embracing my own baseball universe.

Plus, I drafted a homegrown 1B who's 99 potential and 72 OVR at 18.

Who knows though, maybe next years prospect list he's no where near the top 50 and I've learned that that is part of the fun in doing franchise mode.

[hockeyyt988]

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Agreed. This is the first year I actually have been able to roll with the default roster. Nick Allen will probably develop in to a utility player at best. Yes his glove in real life is probably better than SDS rates it, but I don’t need a the roster in franchise to be over inflated with capable major leaguers. This year for the first time I am seeing so much more variance in prospect development curves and I like it. I use to never value prospects with D potential, but now those prospects with a potential of 67-69 are very serviceable options if you develop them properly. It makes C and B and even more so A prospects so much more valuable as they should be

I agree with this. I'm seeing quite a bit of variance all in different ways. Examples:

-A rated prospect that just sucks. The guy never grows that high, stats are average and eventually he will go to a B. For whatever reason, the guy just couldn't put it together in the minor and/or major leagues. Happens all the time in real-life.
-D rated 20-year old guys with high starting overall seem to be the "serviceable" category. They may never be 95 OVR all-stars but seem to perform well in the minors and make good bench MLB guys.
- I'm also seeing the D or C guys move up (or down) quicker then years past. Guy is tearing it up, you'll see + next to a lot of attributes and the up arrow next to his rating. Other way is true too, 20 year old D rated 3B sits in free agency with no roster spot. There's a good chance he's a live-long minor leaguer OR is going to retire very soon to due ability.

It's not as rigid this year which is how it should be. Just look at each years top 100 list in real-life, that is being reflected in-game more now.

I do wish there was more influence over how to develop a guy. Right now we have training and that's about it. Maybe change him to secondary position and see if that's a better fit? I know you can just change them in roster control but I think it would be cool to go deeper than that. He would then have to work on certain aspects, coaching staff attributes impacting player development, etc. Risk/reward stuff.

That would be nice as long as it's not overpowering. At the end of the day, the best farm director can't swing the bat for you.

[tessl]

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The problem I see is with the minor league prospects in the game. I'm using Pirates relocated for my franchise and IRL they have 3 prospects whose ETA is 2022 including the #1 2B prospect according to MLB.com.

In this game those players are nowhere near ETA 2022. I'd prefer the old rosters with generated minor leaguers because at least there were a few legit prospects. For me the franchise doesn't begin until the first draft where I can begin to get some prospects in my system.

[forme95]

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The problem I see is with the minor league prospects in the game. I'm using Pirates relocated for my franchise and IRL they have 3 prospects whose ETA is 2022 including the #1 2B prospect according to MLB.com.

In this game those players are nowhere near ETA 2022. I'd prefer the old rosters with generated minor leaguers because at least there were a few legit prospects. For me the franchise doesn't begin until the first draft where I can begin to get some prospects in my system.

What do you classify as serviceable? Most of these players think if the guy isnt a 80+ ovr and caps to 99 then they arent worth the MLB. I pay little attention to overalls and potentials when it comes to playing. If I see a prospect in AAA with good stats, I will call him up. I had a pitcher who was a 59 D playing in AAA and I brought him up because I needed a 6th pitcher due to injury. He hasnt been sent down yet. I think some players get to hung up on overalls and potentials and form the opinion that its a garbage player. Its not a garbage player, it could be a great storyline.

The other thing is and IDK why some are so hung up on it, is this is a video game. IT CANT mimic real life, nor should it. There's tangibles that this game will never be able to duplicate or transition from real life. Its a game. Make it its own universe. Just because A PLAYER starts off well in real life MLB doesnt mean that A PLAYER will in the game. Just like scouts (who are paid to find talent and miss) SDS doesnt know who will and who wont be a star.

[jcar0725]

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What do you classify as serviceable? Most of these players think if the guy isnt a 80+ ovr and caps to 99 then they arent worth the MLB. I pay little attention to overalls and potentials when it comes to playing. If I see a prospect in AAA with good stats, I will call him up. I had a pitcher who was a 59 D playing in AAA and I brought him up because I needed a 6th pitcher due to injury. He hasnt been sent down yet. I think some players get to hung up on overalls and potentials and form the opinion that its a garbage player. Its not a garbage player, it could be a great storyline.

The other thing is and IDK why some are so hung up on it, is this is a video game. IT CANT mimic real life, nor should it. There's tangibles that this game will never be able to duplicate or transition from real life. Its a game. Make it its own universe. Just because A PLAYER starts off well in real life MLB doesnt mean that A PLAYER will in the game. Just like scouts (who are paid to find talent and miss) SDS doesnt know who will and who wont be a star.

This is my jam. I love scraping for serviceable players around the league. My current "D" rated RF is a hack in the field but his contact and power vs. righties are decent and right now he's raking, so I use him all the time as a starter and just sub him out late in games for defense.

[forme95]

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This is my jam. I love scraping for serviceable players around the league. My current "D" rated RF is a hack in the field but his contact and power vs. righties are decent and right now he's raking, so I use him all the time as a starter and just sub him out late in games for defense.

That my friend is 100% how to do it!!! I even do that with F Reyes when I DH someone else and put him in the field.