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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #16
    Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

    Originally posted by VinceJulien14
    It’s a fun stat though? And baseball is all about stats. One of my favourite things to see is batter vs pitcher matchups, “this batter is 4 for 10 life time vs this pitcher”, who doesn’t like more stats? Anything that adds even the smallest bit to the presentation of it all is a welcome addition imo


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    Oh, I’m all in for stats. To me this isn’t a stat when it’s subject to absolute change with a big inning. It’s cool if people like it…I don’t. Remember, I’m one of the “fanboys” (prefer fanperson ) who always defend SDS with my very being.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52760

      #17
      Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

      Originally posted by KnightTemplar
      Well….what good is it? What is it for? Team has a 70% chance of winning unless their relief pitcher comes in and stinks the place up. Makes no sense to me.
      Its the new thing in real life broadcasts to show win percentages as betting on baseball (sports) is becoming more...mainstream I guess you could call it.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #18
        Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

        Originally posted by countryboy
        Its the new thing in real life broadcasts to show win percentages as betting on baseball (sports) is becoming more...mainstream I guess you could call it.
        Well…there ya go.

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        • stealyerface
          MVP
          • Feb 2004
          • 1803

          #19
          Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

          I thought it might have been something like a momentum meter, so if momentum was toggled on, it let you have an idea of the real-time “balance” of the game.
          The reason I thought that was because the movement of the slider is dynamic. If you strike a guy out when your controller is rumbling( big situation), the meter visibly moves in your favor after you get him. To me, striking a guy out in the second inning of a 0-0 game, would not really be indicative of win-probability. Plus, you can see the meter rise and fall situationally in the innings based on extra base hits, or stealing a base.
          Is it possible that it might be a momentum balance meter, and when your team has the advantageous swing, that the pitches are a little easier to hit the spots, the batters pci gets an advantage, and the opposite happens with a team that is on the low side of the meter?
          Everyone knows the ebb and flow are such a major part of baseball, is it possible this is an addition to mimic that swing of big Mo’?
          ~syf


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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52760

            #20
            Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

            Originally posted by stealyerface
            I thought it might have been something like a momentum meter, so if momentum was toggled on, it let you have an idea of the real-time “balance” of the game.
            The reason I thought that was because the movement of the slider is dynamic. If you strike a guy out when your controller is rumbling( big situation), the meter visibly moves in your favor after you get him. To me, striking a guy out in the second inning of a 0-0 game, would not really be indicative of win-probability. Plus, you can see the meter rise and fall situationally in the innings based on extra base hits, or stealing a base.
            Is it possible that it might be a momentum balance meter, and when your team has the advantageous swing, that the pitches are a little easier to hit the spots, the batters pci gets an advantage, and the opposite happens with a team that is on the low side of the meter?
            Everyone knows the ebb and flow are such a major part of baseball, is it possible this is an addition to mimic that swing of big Mo’?
            ~syf


            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
            Its win probability meter as stated by SDS, nothing else.
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


            Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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            • stealyerface
              MVP
              • Feb 2004
              • 1803

              #21
              Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              Its win probability meter as stated by SDS, nothing else.


              Okay, thank you.
              ~syf


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              • Firestorm
                Rookie
                • Mar 2022
                • 295

                #22
                Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                Comeback code exposed...

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                • JoshC1977
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 11564

                  #23
                  Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                  Originally posted by Firestorm
                  Comeback code exposed...
                  Not amusing at all....

                  IMHO, it's a borderline trolling attempt to try to start something.
                  Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                  • Firestorm
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 295

                    #24
                    Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    Not amusing at all....

                    IMHO, it's a borderline trolling attempt to try to start something.

                    Not trolling, not trying to start something, I just thought it was funny. Lighten up...

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                    • PhlliesPhan6
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1491

                      #25
                      Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                      It's a neat addition but I'd trade it in an instant to have the full graphic stat Overlays during all batter walkups back. Instead of them randomly showing up once I twice a game. It looks so great on The show theme and I want to see it A LOT more.

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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22921

                        #26
                        Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                        Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                        Oh, I’m all in for stats. To me this isn’t a stat when it’s subject to absolute change with a big inning. It’s cool if people like it…I don’t. Remember, I’m one of the “fanboys” (prefer fanperson ) who always defend SDS with my very being.
                        It is a stat, though. All it is basically saying is how often teams in those situations win. It adjusts a little for team talent, but when you have a 72% chance to win when up 1-0 in the 4th, it's saying statistically the team in your position wins 72% of the time.

                        It's not really different than a real life broadcast showing teams are 288-16 this season when scoring first.

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                        • jcar0725
                          "ADAPT OR DIE"
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3821

                          #27
                          Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                          I think those of us who aren't a fan of it just mean that it seemed like a not that necessary addition compared to some other things that are more pressing. I really don't even notice it. But it's not like it's some horrible thing.
                          JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #28
                            Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                            Originally posted by Firestorm
                            Not trolling, not trying to start something, I just thought it was funny. Lighten up...
                            Glad to hear it.

                            I know you're new here....but just to offer you context as to why I reacted to it; there have been way too many asinine blow-ups over the years here over this topic.

                            I have no issues with having a little fun (lord knows I do it myself), but given this forum's history on this topic, this is probably not a bear we should be poking, even in jest.

                            No biggie!
                            Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                            • Gramps91
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2116

                              #29
                              Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                              Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
                              It's a neat addition but I'd trade it in an instant to have the full graphic stat Overlays during all batter walkups back. Instead of them randomly showing up once I twice a game. It looks so great on The show theme and I want to see it A LOT more.
                              Why not both
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                              • Firestorm
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2022
                                • 295

                                #30
                                Re: Win Probability on Score Box?

                                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                                Glad to hear it.

                                I know you're new here....but just to offer you context as to why I reacted to it; there have been way too many asinine blow-ups over the years here over this topic.

                                I have no issues with having a little fun (lord knows I do it myself), but given this forum's history on this topic, this is probably not a bear we should be poking, even in jest.

                                No biggie!

                                It's all good, no worries...



                                Fun fact: I've been a lurker and a frequent reader since 2014, some years more so than others.

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