Season In Game Overlays

[countryboy]

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I think the overall presentation is better on the PS4 (minus SotS) than the PS5 version. Its not leaps and bounds, but it feels more authentic and more like what we had previously.

[Caulfield]

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I don't even understand why there needs be Broadcast, Hybrid and Fast-Play presentation,
if Broadcast is really closer akin to a Fast-Play Lite than a ''True'' Broadcast.

just call it all what is (Fast-Play) and be done withit

[JoshC1977]

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I don't even understand why there needs be Broadcast, Hybrid and Fast-Play presentation,
if Broadcast is really closer akin to a Fast-Play Lite than a ''True'' Broadcast.

just call it all what is (Fast-Play) and be done withit

Broadcast is nowhere close to "fast play" (or even "fast play lite"). It obviously isn't quite authentic to a true baseball broadcast; but it is a LOT more developed than I think some folks give it credit for (even accounting for a few of the omissions this year as they work in the new commentary team).

If I go through a lengthy spurt of playing some DD (which IS locked on 'fast play' presentation sadly), when I come back to franchise mode on broadcast, it's like "ahhhh...this is what I have been missing". Broadcast is just SO much richer and developed; after a few dozen games on "fast" it feels downright luxurious. It's honestly a major reason why I usually play both modes - it truly helps me appreciate the (many) things this series does very well, and broadcast presentation is definitely a major one.

[Detroit Tigers]

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Broadcast is nowhere close to "fast play" (or even "fast play lite"). It obviously isn't quite authentic to a true baseball broadcast; but it is a LOT more developed than I think some folks give it credit for (even accounting for a few of the omissions this year as they work in the new commentary team).



If I go through a lengthy spurt of playing some DD (which IS locked on 'fast play' presentation sadly), when I come back to franchise mode on broadcast, it's like "ahhhh...this is what I have been missing". Broadcast is just SO much richer and developed; after a few dozen games on "fast" it feels downright luxurious. It's honestly a major reason why I usually play both modes - it truly helps me appreciate the (many) things this series does very well, and broadcast presentation is definitely a major one.

I just wish they’d let the pitcher catch the friggin’ ball on the return-throw from the catcher before cutting away. The rest of the pacing here I am ok with, agreed.

But let me be clear I don’t think this is some little thing, and I’m perplexed there’s not more outrage about it.

Consider this: how many new throw animations did they give to the post-play animations at first base? Seems like a lot to me and it’s one of the best “new paint” features of the year imo.

Now imagine if they took them all out next year and just cut back to the pitcher’s mound immediately after 1B caught the ball to “speed up the game.” Like wtf, right?

But how is the pitcher-catcher “scene” any different? It ends up a slippery slope where you’re asking why are there post-play animations at all? Why not just insta-cut back to the mound after a catch in the outfield too?

Because that would suck, that’s why. And not letting the pitcher catch the ball when the catcher throws it back sucks in the exact same way.

When real-time presentation was a thing it took pitchers like 4-6 seconds to re-set after getting the ball back. THAT is what nobody liked and what they were button-mashing. They don’t like that part of real baseball either for that matter.

But there’s no one playing this game that doesn’t want to see the catcher throw the ball back, just as there’s no one playing this who doesn’t want to see the smooth 1B animations post-play. If they exist they certainly aren’t choosing broadcast mode.

Why aren’t we talking about the 40 new pitcher-catcher throwback animations and how sick they all are? Instead catchers get 90% of their throws auto-cut all game instead.

Absolute Busch league pacing/presentation decision imo. “Broadcast mode.”

[SmashMan]

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But there’s no one playing this game that doesn’t want to see the catcher throw the ball back,

I think you're framing it incorrectly. It's not a want/don't want thing, it's a care/don't care thing. Is there anyone who doesn't want this? I'll say no, but the vast majority of players probably don't even register it enough to have an opinion on it.

[Detroit Tigers]

Season In Game Overlays

I think you're framing it incorrectly. It's not a want/don't want thing, it's a care/don't care thing. Is there anyone who doesn't want this? I'll say no, but the vast majority of players probably don't even register it enough to have an opinion on it.

The world is screwed and I don’t care about this game at all if you wanna play the “who cares?” card. Not really an argument. I think my logic about it being analogous to insta-cutting in the middle of any other post-play animation is sound. It’s jarring, unnecessary and misplaced, just as it would be if they did it after catches in the outfield or outs at first.

The reason I don’t like it is because it’s right in the middle of the friggin throw. All I’m saying is the insta-cut would be infinitely better placed *after* the pitcher catches the ball instead of *during* the damn throw, and that, yes, when discussing the differences between modes called “broadcast” and “fast play” it’s a relevant observation that broadcast still insta-cuts 90% of catcher return-throws and is, I think, a black eye on an otherwise extremely well-paced game.

[JoshC1977]

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I think you're framing it incorrectly. It's not a want/don't want thing, it's a care/don't care thing.

I don't even think it's "care/don't care". I think to most people, it's more of a "bigger fish to fry" sort of thing.

We could generate a list of 10000 little things we'd like to see fixed/changed. And for each one of those 10000 things, there will be a person who thinks it's a HUGE deal while nearly everyone else is like, "I agree, but XYZ needs to be fixed first - then you can get to that other thing".

[baconbits11]

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Broadcast mode should also mean seeing where foul balls end up. If I hit a long foul ball into upper deck, I want to see where it landed.

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[jcar0725]

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I just wish they’d let the pitcher catch the friggin’ ball on the return-throw from the catcher before cutting away. The rest of the pacing here I am ok with, agreed.

But let me be clear I don’t think this is some little thing, and I’m perplexed there’s not more outrage about it.

Consider this: how many new throw animations did they give to the post-play animations at first base? Seems like a lot to me and it’s one of the best “new paint” features of the year imo.

Now imagine if they took them all out next year and just cut back to the pitcher’s mound immediately after 1B caught the ball to “speed up the game.” Like wtf, right?

But how is the pitcher-catcher “scene” any different? It ends up a slippery slope where you’re asking why are there post-play animations at all? Why not just insta-cut back to the mound after a catch in the outfield too?

Because that would suck, that’s why. And not letting the pitcher catch the ball when the catcher throws it back sucks in the exact same way.

When real-time presentation was a thing it took pitchers like 4-6 seconds to re-set after getting the ball back. THAT is what nobody liked and what they were button-mashing. They don’t like that part of real baseball either for that matter.

But there’s no one playing this game that doesn’t want to see the catcher throw the ball back, just as there’s no one playing this who doesn’t want to see the smooth 1B animations post-play. If they exist they certainly aren’t choosing broadcast mode.

Why aren’t we talking about the 40 new pitcher-catcher throwback animations and how sick they all are? Instead catchers get 90% of their throws auto-cut all game instead.

Absolute Busch league pacing/presentation decision imo. “Broadcast mode.”

I agree its a strange thing to have in the game only part of the time, just like some foul balls are shown and some are not. Seems like they should be all in or all out since you can easily press X to skip both of those if you want to. But ultimately I've played this series for so long its something I don't even really pay that much attention to any more. Just my 2 cents.

[SmashMan]

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The world is screwed and I don’t care about this game at all if you wanna play the “who cares?” card. Not really an argument. I think my logic about it being analogous to insta-cutting in the middle of any other post-play animation is sound. It’s jarring, unnecessary and misplaced, just as it would be if they did it after catches in the outfield or outs at first.

I think you read way more into my reply than what I meant when I wrote it, so…that’s cool? I meant what I wrote at the time. Not that it doesn’t matter at all, but that it doesn’t matter enough for most players to notice, and thus care to have an opinion about it.

Hopefully at some point you realize that the reason more people aren’t outraged about this is because it doesn’t matter. It would be nice to have, but it doesn’t matter. It’s not that perplexing.

[Detroit Tigers]

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I don't even think it's "care/don't care". I think to most people, it's more of a "bigger fish to fry" sort of thing.



We could generate a list of 10000 little things we'd like to see fixed/changed. And for each one of those 10000 things, there will be a person who thinks it's a HUGE deal while nearly everyone else is like, "I agree, but XYZ needs to be fixed first - then you can get to that other thing".

I am no programmer but it seems like a timestamp to me. The full reset animations are still there, they play out when they announce the umpires. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn this is a simple judgement call and thusly isn’t being “held back” by some list of 10,000 more important things. They’ve left it how it is because apparently no one cares anymore. Ok then. Cool. Moving on.

[jcar0725]

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I am no programmer but it seems like a timestamp to me. The full reset animations are still there, they play out when they announce the umpires. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn this is a simple judgement call and thusly isn’t being “held back” by some list of 10,000 more important things. They’ve left it how it is because apparently no one cares anymore. Ok then. Cool. Moving on.

I would care if ALL throws back to the pitcher were left out and ALL foul balls were left out definitely.

[Detroit Tigers]

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I would care if ALL throws back to the pitcher were left out and ALL foul balls were left out definitely.

Fouls balls not showing is another one, yeah, and I’ll say again these do not seem like things that involve vast coding and vast hours of work; they seem like judgement calls.

But whatever, if guys wanna give pushback against the notion of letting the pitcher catch the return throw instead of that OBNOXIOUS insta-cut I have no words. Carry on y’all.

[jcar0725]

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Fouls balls not showing is another one, yeah, and I’ll say again these do not seem like things that involve vast coding and vast hours of work; they seem like judgement calls.

But whatever, if guys wanna give pushback against the notion of letting the pitcher catch the return throw instead of that OBNOXIOUS insta-cut I have no words. Carry on y’all.

I do think that I read something a few years ago that it was a judgement call and it was based on the amount of times people actually press X to skip those scenes even when not using fast play. So they decided to take some of those out.

[SmashMan]

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I do think that I read something a few years ago that it was a judgement call and it was based on the amount of times people actually press X to skip those scenes even when not using fast play. So they decided to take some of those out.

It might also be (somewhat lame) attempt at keeping some variety in the presentation. That’s just me throwing out an idea though, not claiming it as fact or anything.