No Year to Year Saves, Stadiums Will Not Transfer in MLB The Show 23

[dutchy25]

Re: No Year to Year Saves, Stadiums Will Not Transfer in MLB The Show 23

While some may never admit it, this is exactly right.

Competition is good for the consumer. Physics, minor gameplay improvements and money grabbing modes at some point are not, and have not (for years), been nearly enough to keep me around lately. I bought every Show title since 2007 and stopped a couple years ago because of the total lack thereof in the innovation department. Stadium creator does nothing for me.

You're right. It's the "I'm gonna do what you do but better" thing that The Show doesn't have to worry about. Just look at EA & 2K in the golf world right now. 2K released their game first and EA decided to delay theirs to build, what looks to be, a better game so far.

The Battle Royales (Warzone, Fortnite, Apex) compete for a massive player base and it pushes them to continuously improve.

That competition pushes these companies, even the biggest ones, to their creative limits and typically results in better games. It's needed in other sports games as well, Madden in particular.

I will say though, Baseball & the MLB is losing popularity to other sports specifically with younger generations who aren't even into sports (can't imagine). It's sad but true. I just don't see another company (EA, 2K) wanting to invest tons of money & time into a sports game where SDS has the market cornered. They would have to build a game from the ground up and potentially not reap the rewards of doing so.

[baconbits11]

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Appears PS4 and Xbox One are again holding this series back. No roster carry over, no stadium carry over really disappoints me. If this were not on Game Pass (I'm on Series S), I wouldn't be playing the game because it's not worth the $70.

[colepeyton]

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I want to thank the sports video gaming industry for making life so much more difficult for roster junkies. Those of us here especially at OS who have poured our heart and souls into these endeavors. You've made it so much easier for me to walk away from that hobby and given me hours and hours of my life back...

this makes me so sad. you and several others have given me years of games on mlb20. i cant thank you and everyone else enough..long live roster creation!!!

[JoshC1977]

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Totally not surprised by the news; honestly, at this stage, I am not even really all that disappointed.

I'm totally ensconced in my franchise in '22; which is something that is REALLY hard to accomplish. I adore this game (it's basically the perfect franchise mode FOR ME), I adore my Orioles franchise, and honestly am enjoying the game so much that buying a new game just for the sake of buying it does not make a lot of sense for me. I also know myself really well; if I were to buy the game, I will not go back to '22, meaning a potential risk that I will waste a lot of time spinning my wheels trying to "get into" a new franchise that won't capture that same sense of enjoyment I have now.

I'm not totally closing the door on '23 but that door is only slightly cracked-open right now. It would take something substantial that I want being added (unlikely since they are STILL inexplicably supporting old gen) or my losing that connection to my franchise in '22.

[dalger21]

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No Y2Y again? '20 for another year it is then.

[JoshC1977]

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No Y2Y again? '20 for another year it is then.

If you're still playing '20, even if they had added Y2Y saves to '23, it wouldn't matter for you anyways....Y2Y is not going to go all the way back to such an outdated game (and I'm not saying 'outdated' to knock '20, but it IS a three year old game now)....at best it would be a single iteration back (i.e. only saves from '22).

And even if they added Y2Y saves in '23 doesn't guarantee they would still be present in '24 or beyond. An announcement of Y2Y being added to '23 would thus only benefit those who have an active franchise on '22 with no guarantees for the future.

[dalger21]

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If you're still playing '20, even if they had added Y2Y saves to '23, it wouldn't matter for you anyways....Y2Y is not going to go all the way back to such an outdated game (and I'm not saying 'outdated' to knock '20, but it IS a three year old game now)....at best it would be a single iteration back (i.e. only saves from '22).

And even if they added Y2Y saves in '23 doesn't guarantee they would still be present in '24 or beyond. An announcement of Y2Y being added to '23 would thus only benefit those who have an active franchise on '22 with no guarantees for the future.

Yes, I realize that. The thing for me is that I am not going to invest in a game for a year only to have to start over when the next iteration is released. Once (If) SDS is able to get Y2Y saves back in the game, I will purchase that year's game and move forward (and as you mentioned, only if it is a feature going forward that year's game).

[jcar0725]

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Y2Y saves was amazing, I really miss it. '22 has been amazing, I'm addicted to my current franchise, more than I have been in any previous year. I think it's a fantastic game. I would love some graphic improvements like everyone else does. I don't know if I want any major changes to what happens on the field, because that's as good as any game out there has ever been.

I toyed with the created stadiums and the rebrands and had fun with those. I'm hoping they give people some more options with those two items.

Franchise for me, it could use some love, but I don't want that much more than what is already there. An off season already takes a good 2-3 hours to get through. I'm not interested in setting ticket prices and concessions. I just want to be the GM and make player moves within my team's budget.

What I REALLY want is some better roster/lineup/bullpen logic by the CPU.

So most likely I will see what '23 has to offer and decide what to do at that time. I'll probably get it though. I'm a sucker for new presentation bells and whistles as long as the gameplay is still top notch.

[mattynokes]

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Totally not surprised by the news; honestly, at this stage, I am not even really all that disappointed.

I'm totally ensconced in my franchise in '22; which is something that is REALLY hard to accomplish. I adore this game (it's basically the perfect franchise mode FOR ME), I adore my Orioles franchise, and honestly am enjoying the game so much that buying a new game just for the sake of buying it does not make a lot of sense for me. I also know myself really well; if I were to buy the game, I will not go back to '22, meaning a potential risk that I will waste a lot of time spinning my wheels trying to "get into" a new franchise that won't capture that same sense of enjoyment I have now.

I'm not totally closing the door on '23 but that door is only slightly cracked-open right now. It would take something substantial that I want being added (unlikely since they are STILL inexplicably supporting old gen) or my losing that connection to my franchise in '22.

Co-Sign this!

I'm in "Year 6" of my Franchise (simmed through 2046 and started playing in 2047. After finally winning the World Series in 2050, my Guardians floundered in 2051 (going 78-84). We're back and marching towards a playoff spot in 2052, but the White Sox probably have the division title locked down.

So, I get being attached to a Franchise. I just don't care that a new version is coming out and that's an odd feeling. I, too, would feel obligated to play The Show '23 were I to get it. If they surprised me with Y2Y saves, then it'd be a no-brainer purchase. Now, they'll have to truly impress me with Franchise updates.

[Fishbone Walker]

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How hard would it be to allow access to the vaults from previous years? Its not like they're spitting out entirely new games that couldn't support recent data.

[ChaseB]

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How hard would it be to allow access to the vaults from previous years? Its not like they're spitting out entirely new games that couldn't support recent data.

Again with stadiums I think it could be tricky because the assets do change, probably both in size/scope, and then more things being added or taken out. But with rosters, yeah, I feel like it's a problem they should be able to tackle if they put some resources behind it.

[blackhawksfan4ever19]

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Well since there isn't going to be Y2Y roster carry overs I've decided that if I do buy 23 I'm NOT going to be re-making my college roster for it.

That's too much work and time. I WILL be updating the 2023 College Roster I'm working on right now to be updated EACH year until they bring back Y2Y roster carry overs.

[Karle]

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I agree that with carrying over stadiums from MLB 22 to MLB 23 that could be difficult especially if substantial improvements are made to the program. I created a number of historic stadiums in MLB 22 which I uploaded to the vault and found the program difficult to work with. My primary problem was creating stands from scratch particularly lining up properly the various decks. The upper levels just did not properly line up with the lower levels on their own. It is also not possible to add signs or scoreboards to the walls. Hopefully we will see a big improvement with the next version.

As for Y2Y saves for rosters, we need to remember that the rosters are files. Certain events in the past made major changes to the files namely;

1. The overhaul of the edit player function,
2. Changing the roster size from 25 to 26 players,
3. Adapting the program to be multiplatform.

None of these apply to going from MLB 22 to MLB 23. I could be wrong, but since MLB 20 there seems to be little interest by SDS in supporting the creation of historic rosters and making Y2Y saves possible again.

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[Armor and Sword]

No Year to Year Saves, Stadiums Will Not Transfer in MLB The Show 23

I agree that with carrying over stadiums from MLB 22 to MLB 23 that could be difficult especially if substantial improvements are made to the program. I created a number of historic stadiums in MLB 22 which I uploaded to the vault and found the program difficult to work with. My primary problem was creating stands from scratch particularly lining up properly the various decks. The upper levels just did not properly line up with the lower levels on their own. It is also not possible to add signs or scoreboards to the walls. Hopefully we will see a big improvement with the next version.

As for Y2Y saves for rosters, we need to remember that the rosters are files. Certain events in the past made major changes to the files namely;

1. The overhaul of the edit player function,
2. Changing the roster size from 25 to 26 players,
3. Adapting the program to be multiplatform.

None of these apply to going from MLB 22 to MLB 23. I could be wrong, but since MLB 20 there seems to be little interest by SDS in supporting the creation of historic rosters and making Y2Y saves possible again.

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You can knock 25 to 26 man off as that happened on 20 and we were not only having Y2Y on 20 they had the roster import feature from 19 to 20 (one year only).

26 man is not a reason.


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[Karle]

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My bad on the increase from 25 to 26 men roster size being a reason. On further thought I do not recall the overhaul of the edit player function also interfering with Y2Y saves.

SDS was able to keep Y2Y saves through these changes! But now not?

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