MLB The Show 23 Trade Discussion

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I've decided to blow up the Angels in my 30 team control franchise and I want to get Trout on the Phillies to turn them in to a powerhouse. According to the trade value site this is a fair trade. Since it's four players for one I'll have to do this in two separate trades and throw in some jabroni from the Angels to the Phillies

Phillies get
Mike Trout 99 overall, 31 years old, under contract for 8 years at $35.5 million per year, 52.8 in trade value
PTBNL

Angels get
Brandon Marsh CF 25 years old B potential, 71 overall, 37.4 in trade value
Craig Kimbrel I only threw him in because of budget restrictions, he has .8 trade value
Cristopher Sanchez SP 26 years old, 68 overall, B potential, 4.6 in trade value
Griff McGarry SP 23 years old , 68 overall, B potential, 14.4 in trade value


Overall the Phillies are getting 52.8 in value while the Angels are getting 57.2, yet the return the Angels are getting feels underwhelming, I guess maybe because off all the money Trout is owed that brings down the return. Thoughts?

[reyes the roof]

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Got a question about the Braves.

I'm using the Live roster w/ the Tatis update, and I'd like to move off of Ozuna for off-the-field reasons.

I'd be perfectly happy getting anyone in the 65 OVR + range with DH platoon potential in return, so I'm wondering who some good targets might be to fill that role on the team, and I'm wondering what teams might benefit from adding Ozuna, in a world where they're not concerned about the history.

Thanks in advance for the thoughts!

How are the Brewers doing? If they’re not contending then an outside the box idea would be swapping him for Yelich. You’re getting the better player but you’re also taking on a ton of new salary obligation. Realistically you’re not getting anything of value for Ozuna unless you let the other team dump a bad contract off to you

[RogueHominid]

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How are the Brewers doing? If they’re not contending then an outside the box idea would be swapping him for Yelich. You’re getting the better player but you’re also taking on a ton of new salary obligation. Realistically you’re not getting anything of value for Ozuna unless you let the other team dump a bad contract off to you

Yeah, it's very early in the season, and I wish I thought about this in ST.

I'd be perfectly happy with a Vogelbach type (he's 67 OVR in AAA right now).

Does that sort of AAA/MLB fringe-type guy make sense if the team receiving Ozuna can get an upgrade over their current DH?

[elnino457]

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I've decided to blow up the Angels in my 30 team control franchise and I want to get Trout on the Phillies to turn them in to a powerhouse. According to the trade value site this is a fair trade. Since it's four players for one I'll have to do this in two separate trades and throw in some jabroni from the Angels to the Phillies

Phillies get
Mike Trout 99 overall, 31 years old, under contract for 8 years at $35.5 million per year, 52.8 in trade value
PTBNL

Angels get
Brandon Marsh CF 25 years old B potential, 71 overall, 37.4 in trade value
Craig Kimbrel I only threw him in because of budget restrictions, he has .8 trade value
Cristopher Sanchez SP 26 years old, 68 overall, B potential, 4.6 in trade value
Griff McGarry SP 23 years old , 68 overall, B potential, 14.4 in trade value


Overall the Phillies are getting 52.8 in value while the Angels are getting 57.2, yet the return the Angels are getting feels underwhelming, I guess maybe because off all the money Trout is owed that brings down the return. Thoughts?

simply from the feeling I would give the angels the best prospect on top that the phillies have

But I'm not at home right now and I'm thinking about who it could be

[TheSteelGamecock]

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I've decided to blow up the Angels in my 30 team control franchise and I want to get Trout on the Phillies to turn them in to a powerhouse. According to the trade value site this is a fair trade. Since it's four players for one I'll have to do this in two separate trades and throw in some jabroni from the Angels to the Phillies



Phillies get

Mike Trout 99 overall, 31 years old, under contract for 8 years at $35.5 million per year, 52.8 in trade value

PTBNL



Angels get

Brandon Marsh CF 25 years old B potential, 71 overall, 37.4 in trade value

Craig Kimbrel I only threw him in because of budget restrictions, he has .8 trade value

Cristopher Sanchez SP 26 years old, 68 overall, B potential, 4.6 in trade value

Griff McGarry SP 23 years old , 68 overall, B potential, 14.4 in trade value





Overall the Phillies are getting 52.8 in value while the Angels are getting 57.2, yet the return the Angels are getting feels underwhelming, I guess maybe because off all the money Trout is owed that brings down the return. Thoughts?

If I’m the angels I’m saying no to this all day long. The value of my franchise is inherently linked to trout so I’m gonna need a really big overpay to move him.

For reference here is a trade proposed on the website fansided from last fall:

Phillies get: trout

Angels get: RHP Painter, RHP Abel , SS Bryson Stott and LHP Erik Miller (now a SF giant)

Those pitching prospects are also a little old for those ratings on their development timeline. They would seem like potential “busts” by now

I’d want either two extremely good mlb quality players (with term or team control for several years) and a A level prospect who is either very young or near mlb ready (and at a premium position)

Or

One young mlb ready good mlb player with plenty of team control left and 3 elite prospects 2 of which at premium positions.



Honestly something like marsh or Stott , painter , and Abel might get it done maybe even Crawford too.


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[reyes the roof]

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Yeah, it's very early in the season, and I wish I thought about this in ST.

I'd be perfectly happy with a Vogelbach type (he's 67 OVR in AAA right now).

Does that sort of AAA/MLB fringe-type guy make sense if the team receiving Ozuna can get an upgrade over their current DH?

The Mets are over budget so you wouldn’t be able to pull a swap for Vogelbach off but I’d rather have Vogelbach than Ozuna. They’re both terrible IMO but Vogelbach can at least draw a walk and get on base and he gets paid way less

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If I’m the angels I’m saying no to this all day long. The value of my franchise is inherently linked to trout so I’m gonna need a really big overpay to move him.

For reference here is a trade proposed on the website fansided from last fall:

Phillies get: trout

Angels get: RHP Painter, RHP Abel , SS Bryson Stott and LHP Erik Miller (now a SF giant)

Those pitching prospects are also a little old for those ratings on their development timeline. They would seem like potential “busts” by now

I’d want either two extremely good mlb quality players (with term or team control for several years) and a A level prospect who is either very young or near mlb ready (and at a premium position)

Or

One young mlb ready good mlb player with plenty of team control left and 3 elite prospects 2 of which at premium positions.



Honestly something like marsh or Stott , painter , and Abel might get it done maybe even Crawford too.


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That’s more in line with what I was initially thinking. I’ll roll with a package centered around Painter

[jcar0725]

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For realism’s sake. What prospects should be considered untouchable in trades? I generally operate on the idea of common sense ( a team isn’t gonna trade a generational CF when they have a glaring hole at CF)

But what else applies?




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My rule of thumb when it comes to trades probably is obvious, without getting in to names. Contending teams are more likely to trade high potential prospects for a player they need to get them over the hump.

Rebuilding teams like say Cincinnati are not going to give up a guy like De La Cruz for anything unless a team is giving them multiple high potential prospects in return which isn't likely.

Thats usually how I go about trading with the CPU.

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[DubsHuskyTV]

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Or, people just don't use it as often?

With the website I posted in the first post, it makes it easier to see a fair deal without gathering others' opinions.

This thread was at its peak when we were all about data and doing our thing, giving opinions.

I don't think anyone ever said you're wrong if you disagree... There were just a lot of, "Well, I'm going to do it anyway!" Which got annoying and wasn't the point of this thread.

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Or everyone got tired of the "you're wrong because I said so post" and demanding BTV is the final saym that HAS to be the reason.

[bigO12677]

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How do you trade in franchise with all teams controled???
I set a trade up but it doesn't go through, other team has to accept message pops up but I don't know how or where to accept the trade as the other team.

[cch99]

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That’s more in line with what I was initially thinking. I’ll roll with a package centered around Painter

Personal opinion as a Phillies fan. There’s no way I’d trade painter and Abel plus Stott for Trout. One of them maybe, more likely Abel. I think Trout is on the backside so to me Painter is too much.

I mean I think the original trade was fine but I think people over value aging veterans. Trout is already 31. Plus using the original value thing it’s not like you are fleecing them.

Some of this stuff does always depend on the season teams are having, how much contract is left, etc.

I mean if Angels are competitive now why would they trade him even for a ton of future potential. This is where you start getting into it being a video game and once you start a franchise funky things might happen. I’m personally one that just does single team control in the games I play and if crazy trades happen I roll with it. I get it though for those who it bothers too much.


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[jlawr311]

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Context: I'm currently at the 2023 Trade Deadline with the 54-51 Pittsburgh Pirates. I originally planned on selling, but plans changed when we managed to roll into the deadline only 1 game back of the Cardinals and 2.5 games out of the last Wild Card spot thanks to a surprising pitching staff and a weak NL Central. We're clearly overachieving this season, so we won't be purging our farm system for a pure rental. However, new ownership wants to show faith in the roster and bring in a reinforcement that can help us both during this run and over the next few years too.

Enter José Urquidy. The Astros are 51-54, 16.5 games out of the AL West and 4.5 games out of the Wild Card. They're mid. They've put José and his additional 2 years of team control on the trade block, and I think I have a proposal for them that is both fair and realistic for both sides. Consider that, by overall, José is their 5th best starter and is currently "blocking" Hunter Brown from having an uncontested rotation spot.

I'm using the first base roster that included Tatis.

Pirates Receive:

SP José Urquidy (MLB) 77 Overall - B Potential
- Mid-3 ERA/~1.1 WHIP
- 2 Additional Team Control Years
- Would become our #1

Astros Receive

SS Liover Peguero (AAA) 66 Overall - B Potential
- Would become the Astros highest potential infield prospect
- Current #6 prospect IRL

SP Kyle Nicolas (AA) 65 overall - C Potential
- Mid-2 ERA in AA
- Current #19 prospect IRL

My Thoughts:

- The Astros take advantage of a down season and free up a rotation spot for a top prospect by moving a young veteran for prospects that address other organizational needs. I figure that they would view Peguero as a potential solution at 2B as Altuve regresses.

- The Pirates deal from a strength, even though their system is weak. In an ideal world Peguero wont see regular playing time with us if Hayes/Cruz/Gonzales/Johnson all pan out.

Thoughts? I figure that Urquidy's team control and our desire to extend him would add a bit more to his trade value.

[DallasRocks]

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Looking for a reliever for the Angels.

Alexis Diaz and Daniel Bard are my early targets.

Sucks that in the game I could trade Suarez straight up for Diaz which would never happen. Any other suggestions for reliever options or what it would cost me for Diaz? Bard is much cheaper and realistic

[reyes the roof]

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Context: I'm currently at the 2023 Trade Deadline with the 54-51 Pittsburgh Pirates. I originally planned on selling, but plans changed when we managed to roll into the deadline only 1 game back of the Cardinals and 2.5 games out of the last Wild Card spot thanks to a surprising pitching staff and a weak NL Central. We're clearly overachieving this season, so we won't be purging our farm system for a pure rental. However, new ownership wants to show faith in the roster and bring in a reinforcement that can help us both during this run and over the next few years too.

Enter José Urquidy. The Astros are 51-54, 16.5 games out of the AL West and 4.5 games out of the Wild Card. They're mid. They've put José and his additional 2 years of team control on the trade block, and I think I have a proposal for them that is both fair and realistic for both sides. Consider that, by overall, José is their 5th best starter and is currently "blocking" Hunter Brown from having an uncontested rotation spot.

I'm using the first base roster that included Tatis.

Pirates Receive:

SP José Urquidy (MLB) 77 Overall - B Potential
- Mid-3 ERA/~1.1 WHIP
- 2 Additional Team Control Years
- Would become our #1

Astros Receive

SS Liover Peguero (AAA) 66 Overall - B Potential
- Would become the Astros highest potential infield prospect
- Current #6 prospect IRL

SP Kyle Nicolas (AA) 65 overall - C Potential
- Mid-2 ERA in AA
- Current #19 prospect IRL

My Thoughts:

- The Astros take advantage of a down season and free up a rotation spot for a top prospect by moving a young veteran for prospects that address other organizational needs. I figure that they would view Peguero as a potential solution at 2B as Altuve regresses.

- The Pirates deal from a strength, even though their system is weak. In an ideal world Peguero wont see regular playing time with us if Hayes/Cruz/Gonzales/Johnson all pan out.

Thoughts? I figure that Urquidy's team control and our desire to extend him would add a bit more to his trade value.

That sounds like a fair trade. I’d probably be hesitant to give up Peguero but it makes sense if he’s blocked

[JayDaMeanest]

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Context: I'm about a week out from the deadline & My Cubbies are currently in 1st on the NL while the Brewers have completely fallen apart - they have dealt with injuries and are only behind the Reds in the NL regarding win-loss.

My bullpen has been good enough, but they are playing over their value, and I'm looking to add a piece to complete. How much of a overpay would it take for me to pry Devin Williams away? He hasn't been great, as he has an ERA over four but hasn't pitched much. I wonder how much more I should add, considering that trades between rivals rarely happen.

I was considering other bullpen pieces that weren't rated as highly as him, but then I simmed ahead without saving to see my draft pick ratings and got an alert that the Braves traded for him. Context: I'm about a week out from the deadline & My Cubbies are currently in 1st on the NL while the Brewers have completely fallen apart - they have dealt with injuries and are only behind the Reds in the NL regarding win-loss.

My bullpen has been good enough, but they are playing over their value, and I'm looking to add a piece to complete. How much of a overpay would it take for me to pry Devin Williams away? He hasn't been great, as he has an ERA over four but hasn't pitched much. I wonder how much more I should add, considering that trades between rivals rarely happen.

I was considering other bullpen pieces that weren't rated as highly as him, but then I simmed ahead without saving to see my draft pick ratings and got an alert that the Braves traded for him.