AI Bullpen Logic

[Cycloniac]

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I read this was improved this year?

Nah. I reached out and received word that it wasn't able to be improved this year, but it's on their radar.

[Cycloniac]

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This has been the setup that has worked best for me:

Bullpen Setup
Think of your bullpen in terms of roles (role in brackets), like this:
LRP (low leverage: 2nd worst RP)
LRP (empty)
LRP (empty)

If you have starters/guys with 30+ stamina, make sure they're in an MRP slot, not an LRP slot, so they can be used properly.
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)

SU (primary setup man/high leverage: best OVR RP)
SU (low leverage: worst OVR RP)

CL (closer)

[JWDixon120]

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This has been the setup that has worked best for me:

Bullpen Setup
Think of your bullpen in terms of roles (role in brackets), like this:
LRP (low leverage: 2nd worst RP)
LRP (empty)
LRP (empty)

If you have starters/guys with 30+ stamina, make sure they're in an MRP slot, not an LRP slot, so they can be used properly.
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)
MRP (high leverage)

SU (primary setup man/high leverage: best OVR RP)
SU (low leverage: worst OVR RP)

CL (closer)

Great write up here. Will utilize this!

[canes21]

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Nah. I reached out and received word that it wasn't able to be improved this year, but it's on their radar.

Huge disappointment. It's been an issue for a long time. It's good it is on their radar, but how long has it on there? Not asking you specifically.

Pretty much guarantees I will have yet another year of not being able to enjoy franchise mode in this game. Coming to GamePass was the best thing this series could have done for me. I'd love to play this game more, but it simply cannot satisfy my needs at this point in time, so I'll just stick with OOTP AGAIN. I want to enjoy both. Hopefully SDS can fix this and other legacy issues next year, but I like living so I won't hold my breath.

[MiracleMet718]

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Nah. I reached out and received word that it wasn't able to be improved this year, but it's on their radar.

Will this also include fixing the CGs and Shutouts for starters in simmed games? The logic is from the mid 2000s.

[ninertravel]

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The problem with moving a LR to the middle is if an injury happens or if a starter can’t go 5 innings the cpu always goes with your LR.

So if that’s your 2nd lowest rating guy it’s a problem if it’s a close game or an early injury.

[DarthRambo]

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Will this also include fixing the CGs and Shutouts for starters in simmed games? The logic is from the mid 2000s.

To fix this you lower SP stamina slider to 2 and set manager hook slider to 7 for all simulated games.

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[Cycloniac]

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The problem with moving a LR to the middle is if an injury happens or if a starter can’t go 5 innings the cpu always goes with your LR.

So if that’s your 2nd lowest rating guy it’s a problem if it’s a close game or an early injury.

I've seen otherwise

As long as you have someone with high stamina, they will use that pitcher.

I'll keep an eye out for that

[bryanm1982]

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I actually don’t mind them using the low stamina bullpen guy if they replace the starter. That is the game’s version of an opener. He will go about 2 innings.

[JaFFiTh]

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The problem with moving a LR to the middle is if an injury happens or if a starter can’t go 5 innings the cpu always goes with your LR.

So if that’s your 2nd lowest rating guy it’s a problem if it’s a close game or an early injury.

I'm still experimenting things like that. I'd rather have them bring in someone and pitch a couple innings instead of the whole game. And it will help the simulation cause you'd get a pitcher pitching 80 games and 200ip... that is annoying! Yes it's the little things

Though I do find having a 2nd pitcher in the setup role, they hardly even pitch. Was simming bunch of seasons to get the feel of it, I do kinda find 7 man bullpen works the best, one LRP (low stamina of course), 4 MRP, 1 SU.

[MiracleMet718]

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To fix this you lower SP stamina slider to 2 and set manager hook slider to 7 for all simulated games.

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So for a played game I’d have to keep it as normal but then change every time I simmed? Thanks for letting me know about this. Will try it out.

[KnightTemplar]

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I’ve reduced all RP stamina, nothing over 29. Only one setup man, two LRP. Seems to be working but y time will tell. (I play with ROSTER CONTROL ON so I’m able to fiddle with other teams bullpens).

[bfindeisen]

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Sorry to revive an an older thread, but I'm just seeing this now. I was a die hard MLB the Show player since the early 2000's but gave up a few years ago due to this glaring issue that has gone unimproved for many years. I play the game for the immersion and prefer to play the CPU. Think I'll be passing again this year. I know that may seem ridiculous to some, but for me, it's a big deal. I get that they need to cater to the most played game modes, but I hope they throw us CPU only Franchise players a bone one of these years and really improve CPU play.

[moemoe24]

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In Game, it is definitely improved I played a game as the Tigers vs the Astros, and the Astros burned through their entire bullpen, using middle relievers when they should have. Never used their long man. Starter went 5 innings. They were down 5-1, but brought in middle relievers. 7 pitchers combined to pitch the final 6 innings of the game (it went 11 innings) none pitching more than an inning.

Game before that, their starter got knocked around, only going 2.2 innings. Long reliever went 3.1 innings (they were losing 5-0 when he came in) and then 4 relievers combined for the final 3 innings.

I'm not sure about simmed games, that could be (and probably is) much different, but in game, I like the bullpen management.

Same here. AI runs out relievers right and left against me in close games

[moemoe24]

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Sorry to revive an an older thread, but I'm just seeing this now. I was a die hard MLB the Show player since the early 2000's but gave up a few years ago due to this glaring issue that has gone unimproved for many years. I play the game for the immersion and prefer to play the CPU. Think I'll be passing again this year. I know that may seem ridiculous to some, but for me, it's a big deal. I get that they need to cater to the most played game modes, but I hope they throw us CPU only Franchise players a bone one of these years and really improve CPU play.

I know man. People that play offline on any game are pretty much being forced out. We arent their demographic. I dont know how old you are but i definitely miss the gaming before online got so big