MLB 23 Scouting Discussion

[CBoller1331]

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Can anyone tell me with 100% certainty if Texas is considered WEST or CENTRAL for scouting multiple players?

I think it's Central but I cannot tell you for certain as I am not at the game right now. If you go create a player once you select a region it will only let you pick a state in that region. The regions are the same as in franchise so that's a quick way to check

[fuhrsy]

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I think it's Central but I cannot tell you for certain as I am not at the game right now. If you go create a player once you select a region it will only let you pick a state in that region. The regions are the same as in franchise so that's a quick way to check

I have this cheat sheet

West
Alaska
Arizona
California
Colorado
Hawai
Idaho
Montana
Nevada
New Mexico
Oregon
Utah
Washington
Wyoming

Central
Alabama
Arkansas
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Lousiana
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Wisconsin
Ohio
Indiana
Kentucky
Tennessee
North Dakota
South Dakota
Michigan

East
Conneticut
Deleware
Maine
Maryland
Massachusettes
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New York
Pennsilvaynia
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington DC
Virginia
Florida
Georgia
North Carolina
West Virginia
South Carolina

[Bonesaw19]

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I've tried a few methods and by far the most successful has been changing my approach throughout the season. It kinda works the same way it would in real life. Here's a breakd9wn of how I approach scouting

Week 1-3 all three scouts discover new prospects at whatever positions you are needing.(don't do the same position/location combo a second week if you only discover 1 prospect. Move on to another)

Week 4: start scouting positions. Ideally we want to weed out any busts that are projected in the first round. I start by looking at what position/combo groups are projected to be ahead of my first round pick (for example, if you notice there are 5 international pitchers projected ahead of your pick, scout that position in order to move the busts down on your board) obviously this will also make some prospects move up. Adjust this each week.

Week 10: start to scout players. Whether you are looking for a position or are going for best available s out the players around your picks

[tessl]

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I prefer this scouting and draft system to the previous but a couple suggested refinements for next year's game.

Bring back the screen where you can sort prospects by attribute.

Don't force users to scout for a week at a time. Maybe 3 days at a time to see whether the prospect is trending up or down.

[consecutive27]

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After many seasons of scouting and drafting, my most successful method by far seems to be scouting individual players, but doing so starting near the bottom of projected players. I basically only scout guys that start with their projected potential max at 99, and almost all 18 year olds. Over the weeks I work my way up through the rankings and end near where my first round pick is.

I have two scouts focus on position players with high efficiency and position player ratings. I have one scout focus on starting pitchers with high efficiency and pitcher ratings. I have used this in my last 4-5 drafts and the majority of my picks have had A potential with several high 90's potential. So about 4 players with A potential every draft. The rest are B's, and maybe one C. I have seen several players with an MLB ranking outside of the top 50 become top five guys for me.

This is drafting as a perennially contending team so no lottery picks. I could understand scouting more top guys if you have a high pick and want to make sure you don't miss a freakishly good player. Keep in mind these guys I am getting all have fairly low ratings starting out, but if you are patient most are MLB ready around age 22-23.

[consecutive27]

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One more observation. It seems pretty clear that player potential is pretty evenly distributed throughout the draft rankings. Guys with higher current ratings get drafted earlier generally, but you can consistently find great potential up and down the draft. Kind of makes sense. Hard to project how players develop. Easier to know who is better right now and assume they will continue to be better.

[tessl]

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One more observation. It seems pretty clear that player potential is pretty evenly distributed throughout the draft rankings. Guys with higher current ratings get drafted earlier generally, but you can consistently find great potential up and down the draft. Kind of makes sense. Hard to project how players develop. Easier to know who is better right now and assume they will continue to be better.

I'm not advising anybody to copy what I do because I'm only in my second draft due to the fact I play every game. Having said that I look at attributes and scout based upon the attributes I value. I also look for players who aren't projected to be drafted early or at all.

I haven't tried discovery but I'd be curious to know if others have tried it and if so what were the results?

[Seeker7]

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After doing ALOT of scouting, I think I have developed the perfect system. Don't listen to people that say Discovery is a waste, it's not for pitchers.

Scouts

First I find the cheapest scout I can with the highest Discovery possible. Mid 90s or higher if possible.

Second scout must have Efficiency in the 90s and Pitcher as high as possible.

Third scout must have Efficiency in the 90s and Position Player as high as possible.

Scouting

Every week I will select one Position Player to individually scout with my high Position Player scout. AVOID players with very high potential and very high current ratings. Most of those will end up 70s for current and potential. I'm talking about the ones that have very little space between max potential and current (example: 94 max potential, 88 current potential). The exception is guys who are ranked top 10 after scouting. (Don't miss out on those generational talents!) Best picks are usually 18 years old, 99 max potential. All of those will end up with A or B potential. You can scout other players that look good, but the 18 years old with 99 max potential are sure bets for high potential.

With my high Pitcher rating scout I will set to Scout Position - Pitcher. I start with International, then go to the East, and then the Central. I usually avoid the West as there is little there. I will scout each region until it hits 80% scouted on them, then move to the next region.

With my Discovery scout I exclusively scout Pitchers. Best bang for your buck. Start with International, then move to East, then Central. Only move to the next region with they come up empty one week. I guarantee you they will find some gems (NR initial ranking, top 10 scouted ranking).

Drafting

Round 1: Almost always take your best scouted Position Player in the first round. Your Discovery scout will have found you Pitchers to take in the next few rounds that are absolute studs and will be there for you to take, I promise.

Round 2-3: Take those pitcher studs your discovery scout has found.

Rounds 4-5: Time for more position players. You don't need to have scouted them. Look for any position players that are 18 years old with max 99 potential. They will end up with A or B potential.

Round 6: CP or RP. Often there will be some really good ones sitting here that your Discovery scout has found.

Good luck!

Edited for last little piece of advice on position player scouting. For the position player(s) you have targeted for your first pick, I will sometimes scout them one more time even after hitting 100%. Sometimes the ranking will change. I just like making sure of what I am getting with that first pick. Not required but helpful...sometimes helps me choose between two top talents.

2nd edit: More advice. Don't go into the postseason without making sure you have room for your draftees. Notice I said before POSTSEASON, not OFFSEASON. You can't change roster in the Postseason. So BEFORE you go into postseason make sure you have room. Max roster in offseason is 26/26/26/20. That equals 98. You will then have to cut to 93 during offseason. But make sure before going into the postseason that you have room, otherwise even if signed they will become free agents. If you mess up its not the end of the world, you can still sign them as free agents. Same as if you don't or can't sign someone...they will be in the free agents list on 1st day of free agency...make sure you offer on day 1.

[XPowersergX]

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I'm having trouble scouting individual prospects. How do you decide on what prospect to scout? I've heard many different opinions on this, like "scout prospects with a low potential range" (despite the fact that unscouted young prospects have a high range of potential i.e, 66-99.). I've tried scouting those with future attributes that I liked, but when scouted, the team rank would take a dive.

[dr3wbaby]

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I have two NR prospects, both 22 years old 90+ potential that just disappear at draft day, and i’ve simmed ahead and they don’t appear the next year. Anyone else run into this? I was excited because one is a knuckleballer lol

[tessl]

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After doing ALOT of scouting, I think I have developed the perfect system. Don't listen to people that say Discovery is a waste, it's not for pitchers.

Scouts

First I find the cheapest scout I can with the highest Discovery possible. Mid 90s or higher if possible.

Second scout must have Efficiency in the 90s and Pitcher as high as possible.

Third scout must have Efficiency in the 90s and Position Player as high as possible.

Scouting

Every week I will select one Position Player to individually scout with my high Position Player scout. AVOID players with very high potential and very high current ratings. Most of those will end up 70s for current and potential. I'm talking about the ones that have very little space between max potential and current (example: 94 max potential, 88 current potential). The exception is guys who are ranked top 10 after scouting. (Don't miss out on those generational talents!) Best picks are usually 18 years old, 99 max potential. All of those will end up with A or B potential. You can scout other players that look good, but the 18 years old with 99 max potential are sure bets for high potential.

With my high Pitcher rating scout I will set to Scout Position - Pitcher. I start with International, then go to the East, and then the Central. I usually avoid the West as there is little there. I will scout each region until it hits 80% scouted on them, then move to the next region.

With my Discovery scout I exclusively scout Pitchers. Best bang for your buck. Start with International, then move to East, then Central. Only move to the next region with they come up empty one week. I guarantee you they will find some gems (NR initial ranking, top 10 scouted ranking).

Drafting

Round 1: Almost always take your best scouted Position Player in the first round. Your Discovery scout will have found you Pitchers to take in the next few rounds that are absolute studs and will be there for you to take, I promise.

Round 2-3: Take those pitcher studs your discovery scout has found.

Rounds 4-5: Time for more position players. You don't need to have scouted them. Look for any position players that are 18 years old with max 99 potential. They will end up with A or B potential.

Round 6: CP or RP. Often there will be some really good ones sitting here that your Discovery scout has found.

Good luck!

Edited for last little piece of advice on position player scouting. For the position player(s) you have targeted for your first pick, I will sometimes scout them one more time even after hitting 100%. Sometimes the ranking will change. I just like making sure of what I am getting with that first pick. Not required but helpful...sometimes helps me choose between two top talents.

2nd edit: More advice. Don't go into the postseason without making sure you have room for your draftees. Notice I said before POSTSEASON, not OFFSEASON. You can't change roster in the Postseason. So BEFORE you go into postseason make sure you have room. Max roster in offseason is 26/26/26/20. That equals 98. You will then have to cut to 93 during offseason. But make sure before going into the postseason that you have room, otherwise even if signed they will become free agents. If you mess up its not the end of the world, you can still sign them as free agents. Same as if you don't or can't sign someone...they will be in the free agents list on 1st day of free agency...make sure you offer on day 1.

Interesting analysis. Thanks for taking the time to do that. I'm in my second season. It seems to me not much has changed with the players. The ones with good attributes have poor potential and don't progress. Ones with good potential have poor attributes and are many years from being MLB players.

Perhaps that's because I'm not doing enough discovery. I'll try what you suggest.

The biggest problem remains progression. I don't think the people who worked on the draft have played the game. For example the scout will say pitcher stamina will progress 15 points from present to future but in the game pitcher stamina doesn't progress and has been like that for many years.

You draft Mickey Mantle and you get Mickey Mouse.

[countryboy]

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Interesting analysis. Thanks for taking the time to do that. I'm in my second season. It seems to me not much has changed with the players. The ones with good attributes have poor potential and don't progress. Ones with good potential have poor attributes and are many years from being MLB players.

Perhaps that's because I'm not doing enough discovery. I'll try what you suggest.

The biggest problem remains progression. I don't think the people who worked on the draft have played the game. For example the scout will say pitcher stamina will progress 15 points from present to future but in the game pitcher stamina doesn't progress and has been like that for many years.

You draft Mickey Mantle and you get Mickey Mouse.

Well tbarnes from this site works on franchise so yes those who work on franchise actually play the game. And he’s not the only one.

And stamina does increase for pitchers within franchise mode.




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[tessl]

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Well tbarnes from this site works on franchise so yes those who work on franchise actually play the game. And he’s not the only one.

And stamina does increase for pitchers within franchise mode.




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I'm aware tbarnes is working on the game. None of the bugs that have sprung up in 2023 for which I submitted bug reports have been fixed.

Stamina rarely increases. In the rare instances where it increase it is +1 for a season and not +15 as the scout indicates.

It's a great game and I play it regularly but they are spending resources in the wrong places.