Too many strikeouts

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Haven't been on the board to see this post take off, but I think what the guys who are seeing too many K's are saying is - We are not seeing as many quality at-bats as we did in last year's version.

I even notice a lot of the time with racking up K's on MLB23 that my pitch count isn't even that crazy. These guys in real life who rack up 9-10ks in 5 innings are throwing 100+ pitches. On MLB22 I felt like the high inside fastball with 2 strikes became "cheese-like" but this year's version just seems a little off. I've raised the CPU Hitting Timing & Contact in hopes this helps. The Contact slider is supposed to help discipline.

I play on Legend/Legend and Pitch Meter

I use quick counts, so the pitch count is realistic for me still. I'm at 100 by 6th inning at the latest. Contact raised does help them check swing better but really nothing that noticeable. I had contact 8 and timing 10 and it doesn't make a difference. Just tried default cpu hitting and held Cincy to 3 hits and 12k in Colorado, so that's just no fun for me. I have to increase contact to get a cpu offense that is threatening. The swing and misses for real is simply what SDS wanted this year. I get it. Real life strikeouts are out of control with everyone swinging for the fences.

But at least last year, I had to work for a strikeout with the "extra long bats" someone mentioned above. I actually had to try for a strikeout, and it was rewarding. I can only remember striking out the side last year a handful of times. This year, it's usually once per game I do this without trying to.

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[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Getting frustrating tbh. I had 19k vs Seattle with Boston. After 5 innings I have 10k with Kopech vs the high contact rarely strikeout Guardians team. I'm truly at a loss why they changed the game like this. I've tried everything I can think of without making the cpu overpowering and nearly unbeatable.

Raising contact does nothing. Raising timing does nothing. Only if you go ridiculous and do like 9 contact and 5 timing, but then nearly all your outs are Ks while they smack you around for 12+ hits almost every game. I am averaging a strikeout every 2.8 at bats which is unheard of. I'm at a loss and close to giving up. This needs patched asap. It's a huge huge problem they created purposely. I am envious of those not striking out the cpu more than 7 or 8 times a game. Idk how that's even possible this year honestly.

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[jcar0725]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Getting frustrating tbh. I had 19k vs Seattle with Boston. After 5 innings I have 10k with Kopech vs the high contact rarely strikeout Guardians team. I'm truly at a loss why they changed the game like this. I've tried everything I can think of without making the cpu overpowering and nearly unbeatable.

Raising contact does nothing. Raising timing does nothing. Only if you go ridiculous and do like 9 contact and 5 timing, but then nearly all your outs are Ks while they smack you around for 12+ hits almost every game. I am averaging a strikeout every 2.8 at bats which is unheard of. I'm at a loss and close to giving up. This needs patched asap. It's a huge huge problem they created purposely. I am envious of those not striking out the cpu more than 7 or 8 times a game. Idk how that's even possible this year honestly.

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Like I've mentioned earlier, why not check to see what settings other people are using who aren't having this problem? You keep saying they changed the game but maybe its just your settings/sliders.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Like I've mentioned earlier, why not check to see what settings other people are using who aren't having this problem? You keep saying they changed the game but maybe its just your settings/sliders.

I've tried default sliders though. Which is what most ppl use. What settings are you using? And I know they changed the game cause they said it themselves in one of their streams.

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[baseballguy99]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I've tried default sliders though. Which is what most ppl use. What settings are you using? And I know they changed the game cause they said it themselves in one of their streams.

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Have you lowered your control and consistency?
Try legend with 0 control and 3 consistency and everything else default and see how that works for you. It’s what I’m using and it’s been decent K wise, a bit high but perhaps tolerable

[jcar0725]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I've tried default sliders though. Which is what most ppl use. What settings are you using? And I know they changed the game cause they said it themselves in one of their streams.

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The first month of the game every year is the fine tuning of the settings for me. Last year I ended up on default AS+ with cpu contact up one notch and played that way all year and it worked great.

So far this year I'm on default AS+ with cpu contact up two notches. Everything else is default. Country said he's on default legend with no slider tweaks and its playing fine for him.

I think the more the gamer constantly moves various sliders back and forth, the more unstable the game plays. So other than CPU contact, I rarely touch anything else.

There are also slider threads on the forum that might help you if you want to follow what those guys are doing.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Have you lowered your control and consistency?
Try legend with 0 control and 3 consistency and everything else default and see how that works for you. It’s what I’m using and it’s been decent K wise, a bit high but perhaps tolerable

I've always had consistency at 2 with control from 0-3 this year.

I tried legend with Rmioks cpu hitting and user default pitching sliders. Cpu contact at 6. Only one game though, but I struck out 11 with Detroit vs Pirates. They had 11 hits with 5 doubles. It just felt the same tbh. Like long haul I just know the Ks are going to be high regardless. I can just feel it. I've yet to finish a game this year under 8 strikeouts.

I could try control and consistency at my normal 0/3 or around that on legend. But I sense that most contact will be base hits, and majority of outs will still be via strikeout.

I'm probably going to end up quick managing pitching and hit only until this is patched. If it ever is.



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[bryanm1982]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I just wonder if something in the sliders is making the CPU take a bad approach at the plate causing them to strikeout. The sliders that we use is below.

CPU
Contact: 9
Power: 5
Timing: 4
Foul Frequency: 5
Solid Hits: 3

User Control: 3 (we have tried 0 but we give up too many hits but going to 3 didn’t change the strikeouts.
User Consistency: 2

I know there have always been theories that the user control needs to match the CPU contact. But don’t know how control at 9 will help. I know in MLB 20, I believe Josh always said user control needs to be one less than cpu contact.

Unless another slider like fielding sliders or base running sliders have anything to change the hitting I’m not sure why it would. We have steal success at 8 and frequency at 4. I think I remember Josh said he noticed in 21 that raising stealing success slider made the cpu hit differently?

[countryboy]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I've always had consistency at 2 with control from 0-3 this year.

I tried legend with Rmioks cpu hitting and user default pitching sliders. Cpu contact at 6. Only one game though, but I struck out 11 with Detroit vs Pirates. They had 11 hits with 5 doubles. It just felt the same tbh. Like long haul I just know the Ks are going to be high regardless. I can just feel it. I've yet to finish a game this year under 8 strikeouts.

I could try control and consistency at my normal 0/3 or around that on legend. But I sense that most contact will be base hits, and majority of outs will still be via strikeout.

I'm probably going to end up quick managing pitching and hit only until this is patched. If it ever is.



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If you're constantly changing settings/sliders after a game or a handful of games, you're never going to find a "balance" because you're putting too much stock into "one off" stats.

I would play at the very least a month of games (30) in franchise or play thru spring training without simming, to get a bearing on how your settings/sliders are playing out. Then make minimal adjustments from there, and go another 30 games or so.

Predicting statistical outcomes on anything less than that, I think leads to you chasing "perfect" sliders/settings that you'll never find because a game, a series, or a week in franchise is going to disturb your quest to find "perfect" stats.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

If you're constantly changing settings/sliders after a game or a handful of games, you're never going to find a "balance" because you're putting too much stock into "one off" stats.



I would play at the very least a month of games (30) in franchise or play thru spring training without simming, to get a bearing on how your settings/sliders are playing out. Then make minimal adjustments from there, and go another 30 games or so.



Predicting statistical outcomes on anything less than that, I think leads to you chasing "perfect" sliders/settings that you'll never find because a game, a series, or a week in franchise is going to disturb your quest to find "perfect" stats.

I am a firm believer in not needing 50 games played to know how something is going. This is a video game that is coded. Sliders are just a feel thing for me. I know if something is right or off within 10-15 games max. I pitch only using fast play and quick counts, and sim hitting. So I am flying through games. It doesn't take me long to finish a bunch of games using one setting. I enter data in a spreadsheet as I go so I am able to easily see the sort of direction things are headed after 10-15 games.

The strikeouts are just happening. There's really not any setting or slider causing it IMO.

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[jcar0725]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I am a firm believer in not needing 50 games played to know how something is going. This is a video game that is coded. Sliders are just a feel thing for me. I know if something is right or off within 10-15 games max. I pitch only using fast play and quick counts, and sim hitting. So I am flying through games. It doesn't take me long to finish a bunch of games using one setting. I enter data in a spreadsheet as I go so I am able to easily see the sort of direction things are headed after 10-15 games.

The strikeouts are just happening. There's really not any setting or slider causing it IMO.

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Alright my friend I think people are trying to help you but you're not listening. I wish you good luck I hope you figure it all out.

[bryanm1982]

Re: Too many strikeouts

If you're constantly changing settings/sliders after a game or a handful of games, you're never going to find a "balance" because you're putting too much stock into "one off" stats.

I would play at the very least a month of games (30) in franchise or play thru spring training without simming, to get a bearing on how your settings/sliders are playing out. Then make minimal adjustments from there, and go another 30 games or so.

Predicting statistical outcomes on anything less than that, I think leads to you chasing "perfect" sliders/settings that you'll never find because a game, a series, or a week in franchise is going to disturb your quest to find "perfect" stats.

I get what you are saying. But between me and Steve we have been playing this game finding a good balance nonstop since March 28th. Probably at least 100 games between us. Now the sliders have been adjusted throughout the process but shave been somewhat close. We play a handful of games before adjusting a slider but throughout the testing we have seen high strikeouts. The only thing that changes is the amount of hits/home runs.

I don’t know if we are averaging 13-15 K’s per game after 20 games it will stop and go down to 8-10 per game.

At this point, it isn’t even chasing perfect stats. It’s chasing a simulated game and not an arcade feel game.

I’m just hoping that there is something that we have set that is causing this for us.

I hope you don’t take this as being combative or arguing. I know we are just trying to help each other.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I'm probably going to end up quick managing pitching and hit only until this is patched. If it ever is.



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No patch for this. Fingers crossed.

[countryboy]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I am a firm believer in not needing 50 games played to know how something is going. This is a video game that is coded. Sliders are just a feel thing for me. I know if something is right or off within 10-15 games max. I pitch only using fast play and quick counts, and sim hitting. So I am flying through games. It doesn't take me long to finish a bunch of games using one setting. I enter data in a spreadsheet as I go so I am able to easily see the sort of direction things are headed after 10-15 games.

The strikeouts are just happening. There's really not any setting or slider causing it IMO.

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Then I guess stop asking what settings/sliders people are using if none of it matters.

Trying to help, don't need a lecture.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Then I guess stop asking what settings/sliders people are using if none of it matters.



Trying to help, don't need a lecture.

I ask cause at this point, I'm willing to try anything. There's nothing wrong with that. I didn't lecture you lol

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