Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

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  • frank70
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 210

    #1

    Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

    I don't know exactly, when these streaks set in. After going 0 for 10, or after a certain amount of strikeouts?

    What i do know, that it takes too long in my opinion to get out of it. I had a player having three hits in one game and another two in the next game and he was still cold. That's not realistic. You are not cold after 5 hits in two days. Doesn't matter what happened maybe a week ago.

    And the consequences of the cold streak label are pretty severe as well imho. Batters are really off at the plate when in a cold streak. Timing is horrible and they strike out a lot - it's almost an automatic out. And pitchers are really struggling with command. It's just too penalizing imo and it takes too long to get out of it.
  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #2
    Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

    I disagree. After close to a full season (playing every pitch/every game) I've seen plenty of variety in terms of what it takes to pull a player out of an extended slump (i.e. "cold streak"). Sometimes a couple of multi-hit days in a row will do it; other times it takes a more consistent effort over a week or more of games.

    Sometimes you just need to bench a guy for a few games (or carefully pick the games they start so they face weaker pitchers).
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    • bronxbombers21325
      MVP
      • Mar 2012
      • 3058

      #3
      Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

      I know they’re a b**ch to try to get out of. Harrison Bader is cold in my franchise and is basically useless at the plate. My last game he finally had an RBI double and an RBI single in the same game. I thought that’ll bring him out of it. Nope, still labeled as cold.

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      • knich1
        Pro
        • Apr 2017
        • 780

        #4
        Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

        I have not paid as much attention to the streaks. Nice to see that they work.

        How easy is it to lose hot streak?

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        • jcar0725
          "ADAPT OR DIE"
          • Aug 2010
          • 3816

          #5
          Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

          Absolutely love the built in randomness of the hot and cold streaks. For me it makes the game more addicting. Even when it seems to go on too long for some players but it does happen in reality. I dont really pay attention to the hot/cold label in the game i just look at performance.

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          • reyes the roof
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 11521

            #6
            Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

            I don’t know if he’s on a cold streak, but I can’t get Edwin Diaz’s confidence up and now I can’t stop blowing games with him

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            • tessl
              All Star
              • Apr 2007
              • 5659

              #7
              Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

              Something I've never figured out is whether the cold/hot icon is just a reflection of the fact the player is streaking or slumping or whether it actually changes attributes.

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              • Funkycorm
                Cleveland Baseball Guru
                • Nov 2016
                • 3156

                #8
                Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

                Originally posted by reyes the roof
                I don’t know if he’s on a cold streak, but I can’t get Edwin Diaz’s confidence up and now I can’t stop blowing games with him
                Sounds like it is time for a move from the closer role to a late inning, low stress role for the time being. At least until you get your confidence back with him.


                Originally posted by tessl
                Something I've never figured out is whether the cold/hot icon is just a reflection of the fact the player is streaking or slumping or whether it actually changes attributes.
                I have always taken it as nothing more than a visual for how a player is trending and that it doesn't impact their on field attributes. When morale used to impact ratings, how a player played did affect their overall but that hasn't been a thing for a few iterations now.
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                • tessl
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5659

                  #9
                  Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

                  Originally posted by Funkycorm
                  Sounds like it is time for a move from the closer role to a late inning, low stress role for the time being. At least until you get your confidence back with him.




                  I have always taken it as nothing more than a visual for how a player is trending and that it doesn't impact their on field attributes. When morale used to impact ratings, how a player played did affect their overall but that hasn't been a thing for a few iterations now.
                  That's kind of what I suspect but there could be a hidden confidence factor for position players.

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                  • frank70
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 210

                    #10
                    Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

                    Originally posted by Funkycorm
                    Sounds like it is time for a move from the closer role to a late inning, low stress role for the time being. At least until you get your confidence back with him.




                    I have always taken it as nothing more than a visual for how a player is trending and that it doesn't impact their on field attributes. When morale used to impact ratings, how a player played did affect their overall but that hasn't been a thing for a few iterations now.
                    It has to impact the attributes though. The eye test tells me enough. Had cpu Eric Cole pitching (i play cpu vs cpu franchise) on a cold streak and he was all over the place. My cold hitters are way off with their timing and strike out a lot. I am pretty sure that a cold streak changes the attributes under the hood. Has to if you look at the performance of those guys. Hot guys are way sharper than normal as well.

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                    • jcar0725
                      "ADAPT OR DIE"
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3816

                      #11
                      Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

                      Originally posted by tessl
                      Something I've never figured out is whether the cold/hot icon is just a reflection of the fact the player is streaking or slumping or whether it actually changes attributes.
                      It can't just be cosmetic can it? I always assumed an attribute change was tied to it. How would the game know he was slumping unless there was some attribute change going on?



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                      • MiracleMet718
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1940

                        #12
                        Re: Cold streaks: Too long and too penalizing?

                        Originally posted by jcar0725
                        It can't just be cosmetic can it? I always assumed an attribute change was tied to it. How would the game know he was slumping unless there was some attribute change going on?



                        Sent from my thoughts
                        I think it is just cosmetic now. It used to impact progression way back in the older games, but we know progression/regression has been broken for at least 3-4 years now so I don’t think it does anymore. I’ve had guys on cold streaks who regressed and guys on hot streaks that regressed, so doesn’t seem to add up for me.

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