Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

[countryboy]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

I still don't know if there are enough players in the draft pool capable of being respectable MLB level players given the odd and unpredictable progression system.

It seems they have abandoned carry over saves and therefore with EA releasing the long awaited college football game in July 2024 I'll probably take a pass on the show - but I've said that before and caved.

I'm currently in year 2026 (4th season - 3 drafts have taken place) and there are 12 players that have been drafted over those 3 seasons that are currently on MLB rosters. I have had one or two players that were immediately put on MLB rosters the year after they were drafted and are contributing and more than respectable MLB level players.

[tessl]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

I'm currently in year 2026 (4th season - 3 drafts have taken place) and there are 12 players that have been drafted over those 3 seasons that are currently on MLB rosters. I have had one or two players that were immediately put on MLB rosters the year after they were drafted and are contributing and more than respectable MLB level players.

26 x 30 = 780

4 per season isn't going to be enough although they are still young and could in theory progress - if the progression system works properly.

I'm only in my second season and my first draft was probably the best of any team but none of my players are anywhere close to being MLB ready and some are regressing.

My guess is the developers who reworked the draft incorrectly calculated progression to be the same or similar to the scouting report and unfortunately progression has not changed. Proof of that is pitcher stamina.

I put the blame on people who wanted more randomness and uncertainty in the draft and progression.

[countryboy]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

26 x 30 = 780

4 per season isn't going to be enough although they are still young and could in theory progress - if the progression system works properly.

I'm only in my second season and my first draft was probably the best of any team but none of my players are anywhere close to being MLB ready and some are regressing.

My guess is the developers who reworked the draft incorrectly calculated progression to be the same or similar to the scouting report and unfortunately progression has not changed. Proof of that is pitcher stamina.

I put the blame on people who wanted more randomness and uncertainty in the draft and progression.

And I’m done with further discussion.


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[JWDixon120]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

And I’m done with further discussion.


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May I ask why? I thought he brought up some serious issues within the games structure.

[countryboy]

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May I ask why? I thought he brought up some serious issues within the games structure.

When someone is blaming people and guessing how the developers screwed up, I have no desire to continue further discussion


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[JWDixon120]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

When someone is blaming people and guessing how the developers screwed up, I have no desire to continue further discussion


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Publisher/Devs, whoever it is have dropped the ball for awhile now.

The games franchise is desperately stale. Speaking on just prospects alone… the player generation is awful.

90% of prospects are either 5’8 and 200 lbs or 6’6 and 180 lbs.

Multiple of them have the “Rollie Fingers” mustache or stirrups. Body styles are also all out of whack. 180 lbs guys have guts. Too many for it to be realistic.

Potentials are Inflated in the draft still. Way too many A and B/C potentials.

There are hardly any balanced players.

There’s always the contact guy with 0 power, Power guy with 0 contact, guy with only a glove, speed etc.


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[countryboy]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

Publisher/Devs, whoever it is have dropped the ball for awhile now.

The games franchise is desperately stale. Speaking on just prospects alone… the player generation is awful.

90% of prospects are either 5’8 and 200 lbs or 6’6 and 180 lbs.

Multiple of them have the “Rollie Fingers” mustache or stirrups. Body styles are also all out of whack. 180 lbs guys have guts. Too many for it to be realistic.

Potentials are Inflated in the draft still. Way too many A and B/C potentials.

There are hardly any balanced players.

There’s always the contact guy with 0 power, Power guy with 0 contact, guy with only a glove, speed etc.


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Cool

You and Tessl can discuss


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[JWDixon120]

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Cool

You and Tessl can discuss


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I’m just trying to understand you’re reasoning. Everything I said is true and causes vital flaws in a franchise mode.

I’ve seen you on the forums a lot and you usually are always on the devs/publisher side and I’m just curious as to why?

Some of these issues have been around since at least 2016…. Unacceptable IMO.

It’s a $70 game that has a year long dev cycle. Not to even mention the amount of money made from Micro Transactions.

It’s been years and years of franchise where it gets minor updates. UI changes and Schedule implementations don’t count as features for me.


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[countryboy]

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I’m just trying to understand you’re reasoning. Everything I said is true and causes vital flaws in a franchise mode.

I’ve seen you on the forums a lot and you usually are always on the devs/publisher side and I’m just curious as to why?

Some of these issues have been around since at least 2016…. Unacceptable IMO.

It’s a $70 game that has a year long dev cycle. Not to even mention the amount of money made from Micro Transactions.

It’s been years and years of franchise where it gets minor updates. UI changes and Schedule implementations don’t count as features for me.


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You don’t need to understand my reasoning nor am I interested in a pissing contest with you.




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[JWDixon120]

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You don’t need to understand my reasoning nor am I interested in a pissing contest with you.




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Pissing contest?

For asking why you feel a certain way on a forum?

Forum- place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.


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[jcar0725]

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Pissing contest?

For asking why you feel a certain way on a forum?

Forum- place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.


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I think the problem is that there is a difference between noticing and pointing out where a video game could improve (let's not forget it is, in fact, a video game) and calling out the people who work on the game as dropping the ball, or not doing their job.

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[DonkeyJote]

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90% of prospects are either 5’8 and 200 lbs or 6’6 and 180 lbs.

I went back and looked at my draft class. There were just 12 players 5'9" or shorter. Of those 12, only one was 200 lb, and only one other was even 190. The average was 180 lbs. There were 16 players 6'5" or bigger. 10 of those 16 players were over 200 lbs, and no one lighter than 188, with an average of 207.

So if we're generous and expand your claim to ≥ 6'5" and < 200 lbs or ≤ 5'9" and ≥ 190 lbs, that's still 3.9% of prospects, not 90%. In fact, 84.2% of prospects had heights between 5'10" and 6'4".

That's not even hyperbole, that's just straight up untrue.

Multiple of them have the “Rollie Fingers” mustache or stirrups.

While stirrups (and equipment in general) is pretty bad, I didn't see a single Rollie Fingers mustache (I did find 3 "Backwoods Chic" beards, though).

Potentials are Inflated in the draft still. Way too many A and B/C potentials.

I've got 11 A (6.2%), 46 B (25.8%), 95 C (53.4%), and 26 D (14.6%). Now obviously there is some preference involved there, but imo, that's pretty good.

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[eric7064]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

Honestly, I think the scouting changes made the mode worse, not better (outside of the draft classes themselves). The UI took major steps backwards, the use of "weekly" tasks reduces immersion and in general, I greatly prefer the old approach.

The best part about this game's franchise mode is that they don't ruin it with unnecessary additions (which cannot be said for any of the other franchise modes out there these days). It is such a solid, dynamic mode and many people don't realize how good it is because they are too busy farting with sliders or worrying about minutiae while re-starting constantly. I'm already halfway through season 3 of my Reds franchise I started in April (playing every pitch/game) and haven't touched a slider (outside of injuries) all cycle. Every season has been SO different for us; both at a high-level but also on an individual player basis. There's so many storylines with numerous players that continue to unfold with every AB; it's just an amazing atmosphere where your franchise universe truly feels connected inside of the games themselves (other sports games feel a lot like "Play Now" games that you just access through the franchise menu).

I am happy you are having fun playing the games day to day, but that really isn't the franchise mode. I have fun playing the games in my franchise. It's when you get out of the game and get a few seasons in that the mode starts showing major cracks. It's just many people as you correctly stated never get far at all into these modes and constantly restart.

[tessl]

Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

Honestly, I think the scouting changes made the mode worse, not better (outside of the draft classes themselves). The UI took major steps backwards, the use of "weekly" tasks reduces immersion and in general, I greatly prefer the old approach.

The best part about this game's franchise mode is that they don't ruin it with unnecessary additions (which cannot be said for any of the other franchise modes out there these days). It is such a solid, dynamic mode and many people don't realize how good it is because they are too busy farting with sliders or worrying about minutiae while re-starting constantly. I'm already halfway through season 3 of my Reds franchise I started in April (playing every pitch/game) and haven't touched a slider (outside of injuries) all cycle. Every season has been SO different for us; both at a high-level but also on an individual player basis. There's so many storylines with numerous players that continue to unfold with every AB; it's just an amazing atmosphere where your franchise universe truly feels connected inside of the games themselves (other sports games feel a lot like "Play Now" games that you just access through the franchise menu).

I agree with nearly all of that. I would say the level of talent in the draft seems to be slightly better than previously.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I agree with nearly all of that. I would say the level of talent in the draft seems to be slightly better than previously.

I never seem to make it far enough in seasons to see how it all plays out sadly. even if I did I have no idea what it takes to code a game for progression to have a solid opinion on it personally.

I think every game has its up and downs. I have never played a sports game that I was say was 100% perfect top to bottom. Maybe the old college football games came close. Could be so many factors, time, resources, etc. Again I have no idea what it takes to make a video game