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  • ninertravel
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 4833

    #1

    How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

    He won’t. Be pitching next year

    They may make him a DH only because if they make him a 2 way player there is no way to remove him from the pitching rotation. And if you do he will end up in the BP.

    So I think he won’t be a 2 way player because of the roster updates will be forced to have him in the pitching rotation or BP,

    I’m having the issue now with the off season roster and he’s gonna be on the pitching staff.
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52728

    #2
    Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

    My guess is that he will be a position player only in the base roster set, but you will have the ability within franchise mode to convert him back to a two-way player.
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    • Ghost Of The Year
      Life's been good so far.
      • Mar 2014
      • 6354

      #3
      Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

      Originally posted by ninertravel
      He won’t. Be pitching next year

      They may make him a DH only because if they make him a 2 way player there is no way to remove him from the pitching rotation. And if you do he will end up in the BP.

      So I think he won’t be a 2 way player because of the roster updates will be forced to have him in the pitching rotation or BP,

      I’m having the issue now with the off season roster and he’s gonna be on the pitching staff.
      Originally posted by countryboy
      My guess is that he will be a position player only in the base roster set, but you will have the ability within franchise mode to convert him back to a two-way player.
      I hope this is the way they handle him Country Boy, but if they dont maybe we can zero out all of his pitching attributes to zero and that will be enough to keep LA from pitching him.
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      • tessl
        All Star
        • Apr 2007
        • 5683

        #4
        Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

        The game in the past has used previous seasons to calculate primary position and secondary positions.

        He will be a DH/pitcher. My guess is OF will be secondary. His durability as a pitcher should be far less than DH but I'm not sure whether they will get that detailed.

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        • ninertravel
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 4833

          #5
          Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

          Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
          I hope this is the way they handle him Country Boy, but if they dont maybe we can zero out all of his pitching attributes to zero and that will be enough to keep LA from pitching him.
          Would the cpu still try and use him in the bp though?

          I don’t think
          A secondary position can be. Pitcher only a primary one

          I think I’ll just have him as a DH and upgrade him near the end of the year if he happens to pitch. Major pain for roster creators if that’s what happens.

          As for 2023 he will just have to be in the dodgers rotation and pretend it’s 2025 lol

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          • DonkeyJote
            All Star
            • Jul 2003
            • 9175

            #6
            Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

            I think he'll still be a pitcher. They don't remove injured players from the game, why would they remove Ohtani's primary position?

            Also, DH is only a position in DD. In Franchise, it's not. And they aren't going to give Ohtani OF as a primary position.

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            • ninertravel
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 4833

              #7
              Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

              Originally posted by DonkeyJote
              I think he'll still be a pitcher. They don't remove injured players from the game, why would they remove Ohtani's primary position?

              Also, DH is only a position in DD. In Franchise, it's not. And they aren't going to give Ohtani OF as a primary position.

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              Why?? Because it will mean he has to be in the dodgers rotation or bp, typically they put injured players on AAA which they won’t do if he’s DH only.

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              • Ghost Of The Year
                Life's been good so far.
                • Mar 2014
                • 6354

                #8
                Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                It's way long overdue DH be a listed primary position, and not just because of Shohei. Marcell Ozuna, Andrew McCutchen, Joey Meneses, Eloy Jimenez, Jorge Soler, Justin Turner and J.D. Martinez primary should all be Designated Hitter.
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                • bronxbombers21325
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3058

                  #9
                  Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                  Not holding my breath, but they should make DH an actual position in the game. Now that it’s in both leagues it would make sense. It never fails that every year, the game AI puts players who only DH IRL playing the field. If they would do that he could just be made DH, with the option to make him a two way player if we choose. That would be the easiest way IMO.

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                  • DonkeyJote
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 9175

                    #10
                    Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                    Originally posted by ninertravel
                    Why?? Because it will mean he has to be in the dodgers rotation or bp, typically they put injured players on AAA which they won’t do if he’s DH only.
                    And then you constantly see complaints about superstars being kept in the minors. Most players are going to want to pitch with Ohtani in Franchise. And if they took away his ability to pitch, then he's not pitching in year 2 and beyond. 0
                    Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                    It's way long overdue DH be a listed primary position, and not just because of Shohei. Marcell Ozuna, Andrew McCutchen, Joey Meneses, Eloy Jimenez, Jorge Soler, Justin Turner and J.D. Martinez primary should all be Designated Hitter.
                    Disagree. DH isn't a position, it's the lack of one. All of those guys still have a position they primarily play when they do field. "Primary" Position is the position where that player doesn't get any fielding penalties. So giving Ozuna, for example, a DH primary position means he gets the same fielding penalty for LF as RF, which doesn't really make a ton of sense.

                    The CPU needs to do a better job of considering defensive ratings in general, including for platoons and secondary positions. But DH doesn't need to be a position for that to happen.

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Life's been good so far.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6354

                      #11
                      Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                      Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                      And then you constantly see complaints about superstars being kept in the minors. Most players are going to want to pitch with Ohtani in Franchise. And if they took away his ability to pitch, then he's not pitching in year 2 and beyond. 0Disagree. DH isn't a position, it's the lack of one. All of those guys still have a position they primarily play when they do field. "Primary" Position is the position where that player doesn't get any fielding penalties. So giving Ozuna, for example, a DH primary position means he gets the same fielding penalty for LF as RF, which doesn't really make a ton of sense.

                      The CPU needs to do a better job of considering defensive ratings in general, including for platoons and secondary positions. But DH doesn't need to be a position for that to happen.

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                      I've never been a fan of the way the Show handles defensive rating penalty for players playing a secondary position. I'm all for there being a penalty for playing ''out of position'', but not one for playing a secondary position. What I want to do is try reducing Ozuna's defensive ratings to zero, and see if the CPU sets him as the everyday dh but never put him in the field as a defensive player.
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                      • bronxbombers21325
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3058

                        #12
                        Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                        Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                        I've never been a fan of the way the Show handles defensive rating penalty for players playing a secondary position. I'm all for there being a penalty for playing ''out of position'', but not one for playing a secondary position. What I want to do is try reducing Ozuna's defensive ratings to zero, and see if the CPU sets him as the everyday dh but never put him in the field as a defensive player.
                        I used to set all the defensive stats for David Ortiz to 0 because every single year the AI would have him as the every day 1B. But, whether you consider DH as a position or not, we should absolutely be able to set a player as a primary DH. Because that’s what most teams sign certain players for. It’s known that some players are never going to get time in the field. They could even allow you the option to assign primary DH to a player, but not make it mandatory to have one for every team. DH is a part of the game now, and will be from now on. So I think it needs to be handled better in the game.

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                        • soxfanbs91
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 309

                          #13
                          Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                          Change absolutely nothing with how they handle Ohtani.

                          Playing a handful of Exhibition games against the Dodgers with updated rosters (using Roster Resource), he doesn't come out of the pen. He can be stashed at long-relief.

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                          • soxfanbs91
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 309

                            #14
                            Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                            And then you constantly see complaints about superstars being kept in the minors. Most players are going to want to pitch with Ohtani in Franchise. And if they took away his ability to pitch, then he's not pitching in year 2 and beyond. 0Disagree. DH isn't a position, it's the lack of one. All of those guys still have a position they primarily play when they do field. "Primary" Position is the position where that player doesn't get any fielding penalties. So giving Ozuna, for example, a DH primary position means he gets the same fielding penalty for LF as RF, which doesn't really make a ton of sense.

                            The CPU needs to do a better job of considering defensive ratings in general, including for platoons and secondary positions. But DH doesn't need to be a position for that to happen.

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                            There are certain guys who for sure need to be listed as "DH." The older guys who never field like David Ortiz, Nelson Cruz, etc. They can have secondary positions be the position they used to play.

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                            • soxfanbs91
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 309

                              #15
                              Re: How will they handle Ohtani for 2024?

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              He won’t. Be pitching next year

                              They may make him a DH only because if they make him a 2 way player there is no way to remove him from the pitching rotation. And if you do he will end up in the BP.

                              So I think he won’t be a 2 way player because of the roster updates will be forced to have him in the pitching rotation or BP,

                              I’m having the issue now with the off season roster and he’s gonna be on the pitching staff.
                              Playing Exhibition games, he doesn't come in from the pen if he is DHing. Sticking him in a long relief spot might be the best way to handle it.

                              They SHOULD NOT remove the 2-way ability from him.

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