No Y2Y Saves means Franchise Mode Loses Story Telling thru Gameplay

[tessl]

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Good article. I'm familiar with the broadcasting industry. The number of listeners and hours spent listening are keys to success.

y2y saves keep people motivated to continue playing the game. I'm not an expert on the gaming industry but that would seem to be a factor in the success of a game.

[Hellquist]

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How come SDS can't make Y2Y saves a feature again? I don't quite understand why it got taken away. I have never used it in the past, but all I play is franchise, so I can understand why someone would want them. I can play three seasons in a calendar year (I play franchise after the trade/waiver period is over). I could easily play six seasons in a year if I didn't wait until the trade deadline.

*I play spring training and all 162 games, 9 innings, every pitch, out, strike, and you name it.*

[potsey7]

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They say "people didn't utilize Y2Y saves" or "people don't play franchise" but it is a chicken or the egg argument.....

I don't play franchise not because I am not interested, but because they do not make improvements to it that draw me in.

I did not utilize Y2Y saves as much as I would have because they did not continue to improve the capability by letting me add in new players etc.

Unfair to me to just simply say people do not utilize the mode or features so we will concentrate on other things. Make the features excellent and people will be drawn in.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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First, thanks for this well written article and the over arching message of the thread.

For me personally, its not that Y2Y saves are gone, its the surreal amount of time it takes to create rosters. It is not worth the time and effort if the files are only good for one version of the game.

I like the concept of storylines. I am curious to see how that plays out. But that is less interesting to me than whether I could break the homerun record in a franchise career play with Junior, or how many Series I could win controlling the Mariners without so many terrible moves in the mid-late 90s. THAT is what I am looking for in a baseball game. That is the only thing I am looking for in a baseball game. It was possible with Y2Y saves.

If the feature is never coming back, I do wish they'd just rip the bandaid off and let us know.

[SFNiners816]

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First, thanks for this well written article and the over arching message of the thread.

For me personally, its not that Y2Y saves are gone, its the surreal amount of time it takes to create rosters. It is not worth the time and effort if the files are only good for one version of the game.

I like the concept of storylines. I am curious to see how that plays out. But that is less interesting to me than whether I could break the homerun record in a franchise career play with Junior, or how many Series I could win controlling the Mariners without so many terrible moves in the mid-late 90s. THAT is what I am looking for in a baseball game. That is the only thing I am looking for in a baseball game. It was possible with Y2Y saves.

If the feature is never coming back, I do wish they'd just rip the bandaid off and let us know.

I used the y2y saves to get thru 12 seasons with my cubs that coincided with their real life world series win and it was the best video game experience i have ever had (second was on M20 using a 1990 roster and draft classes to run thru 25 seasons with my Niners).

I have just come to love the retro rosters so much more than the current day one. The recently released ATG 1990 93 man roster is an all-time and if y2y was still a thing I would have already preordered 24 but I am at a point where I just don't want to step away from a historic roster I've been wanting for so long. Going forward this may mean I go several iterations between purchases because I'm just in a place where the roster base is so much more important than the gameplay tweaks and additions. The y2y featured guaranteed a purchase for me every year....The drive is no longer there since with the absence of y2y it really confines each game to a 12 month cycle.

[MetsFan16]

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I think the problem is when Y2Y saves were taken out of the game we all assumed that was done out of necessity to improve Franchise mode and make significant upgrades. Which we haven’t seen. So at that point, Y2Y saves would be worth having over the lack of upgrades we’ve seen.

Rosters must have a Y2Y save option since roster editing has been the same since MLBTS began.

I will say I was not a Y2Y save user I couldn’t get over not having updated face scans and any new gameplay mechanic/upgrade. I treat the game cycle as its own and will accomplish everything I want within that current years life cycle I haven’t gotten to a point where I Wanted to delay the new release to keep playing my current franchise because by the time the new game came out, I was content with concluding my franchise and got excited about the next years game and what my franchise plan was for that game.

[mrCPUgeek]

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Legitimate question.

How do we make our voices heard? We want Y2Y saves back, but I don't think not buying the game is the answer. A social media campaign? Although, not really sure how to do that. Complaining about it on OS doesn't reach enough people to really make any difference (no offense to OS), but are there more people out there that also miss it that may speak up?

Just babbling questions.

[JoshC1977]

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Legitimate question.

How do we make our voices heard? We want Y2Y saves back, but I don't think not buying the game is the answer. A social media campaign? Although, not really sure how to do that. Complaining about it on OS doesn't reach enough people to really make any difference (no offense to OS), but are there more people out there that also miss it that may speak up?

Just babbling questions.

The fact that they never fail to mention Y2Y saves every cycle (i.e. that they're not in the game that year) seemingly suggests that they ARE aware of the demand for the feature.

If you think about it, it's pretty rare for a game developer to openly acknowledge things that are NOT in games. The fact SDS continues to do that suggests that they fully understand the desire for this feature.

[MLB14]

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If SDS had allowed franchises to be carried over into '24, I would have slam-dunk purchased it. But now, I am in a position to choose between a franchise I love or getting a new game.

I wonder how many people share your perspective because it sounds like Y2Y saves could boost sales.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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Rosters must have a Y2Y save option since roster editing has been the same since MLBTS began.

Even if a roster port isn't perfect.. if a shoe or bat winds up in a different slot.. a Rawlings glove becomes a Wilson glove.. Randy Johnsons mullet turns into dreadlocks.. Editing this stuff is better than having to create an entire roster 1.player.at.a.time

I'd love to know how Ridin goes about his job? I strongly doubt he builds a fresh 93-man roster ever year.

[baconbits11]

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No Y to Y saves definitely costs them sales but not enough to offset the sales DD frenzy generates I'm sure.

Don't understand why rosters are not able to be brought forward each year. Stadiums seem much more complex and they figured out how to do that. Rosters seem like an Excel File to me (data in fields, rows, columns) but there must be more to it?

You would think they have a foundation for this since all the vaults are cross platform.

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[tessl]

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Excellent article. Perhaps this will wake up the people who make this game.

[Karle]

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I used Y2Y saves so I could create my own rosters and bring it over to the next year. It saved a lot of time and made justifying the time spent easier. The loss of Y2Y saves was a severe blow to the creation of historic rosters.

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[Ghost Of The Year]

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Excellent article. Perhaps this will wake up the people who make this game.

Yeah, I figure they could spend the money necessary to bring y2y back but then I figure they'll want to charge $150 just for the standard edition to pay for y2y.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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If they can port created stadiums, they can port rosters.

Period. Mic drop.